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Message: <blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 8621236" data-attributes="member: 71699">Through repeated practice, an experienced character can be expected to have an intuition or natural awareness of those bonuses. Suppose there was a harsh penalty for wielding an X against a Y, and a strong bonus for wielding a Q against that Y. That practiced and experienced character will be aware that it is unfavourable to go with X vs Y, and better to prefer Q. One can even imagine an assiduous captain maintaining statistics on X vs Y and Q vs Y, and being able eventually to approximate the actual values.EDIT To me system values are perforce content of the fiction for games that are simulationist (or perhaps more that there is no difference between saying we use them to sort out our fiction, and saying they are content of that fiction). Example: Where the rule offers %rate and that rule is believed to correlate with the cosmos, then the inhabitants must be able to perform statistical analysis to find that %rate. I am not saying that they will, or that it would be easy, but that it is necessarily possible that they could.EDIT2 I am picturing that their awareness and responses to these hidden laws of their cosmos is part of fiction set there. Example: Advised by the assiduous (and attractive, but not distracting) Captain C, Princess P trains her cohort to fight well with Qs, as she knows that Queen B's bats use Xs. Captain C being a PC, at that. Silly example, but perhaps you see the direction of thought: I have the characters aware of the laws of their world. How far one wants to take that is a matter for prudence, presumably.This utility is one motive for incorporating [USER=7026617]@Thomas Shey[/USER]'s observation into my definition. it provides a lense or razor, allowing us to perhaps find agreement on some rule that the inhabitants couldn't possibly know (not even my assiduous captain). Bear in mind that by "know" I'm not saying that they can guess the exact words of the game text and many wouldn't know even the approximate values therein.EDIT If we did agree that the inhabitants couldn't possibly know a rule (even approximately) then such a rule would be interesting to look at to understand more about what to count in/out as simulationist.</blockquote>

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