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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8539235" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>So we both agree that WoTC is going to continue doing exactly what they have always done. So, can you explain to me why my model which requires no change in what WoTC has done, and only an acknowledgement that table games are equally canon to the books is a bad business decision like was claimed? </p><p></p><p>Because, that's all my model does. Acknowledges that there are different, sealed, realities that can have different origins and rules but are still part of "the multiverse". And I was told this was a bad decision based on DnD tradition (which I am not addressing) and business, because WoTC doesn't want a Multiverse, they want a shared Universe where everything affects each other because that makes more money... despite them making good money having never done that.</p><p></p><p>////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Milky Way is a Galaxy, not a Universe. </p><p></p><p>Universe, coming from the latin universus means "combined into one, whole". It is everything that is observable. If everything that was observable was found out to be the size of a marble, then out current understanding of the universe would be the size of a marble. At one point the universe WAS the size of a marble, due to the Big Bang, and so clearly size has nothing to do with it. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then what is it? </p><p></p><p>As entropy and the heat death occur, and the stars fade and the galaxies rip apart and the planets turn to dust, what do you call the space they all inhabited that was once and still is all of observable reality? What is the name you give it, since you claim it can no longer be the universe?</p><p></p><p>////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My point was to address the gnashing of teeth. </p><p></p><p>For example, earlier in this thread someone was complaining that Goblins can't all come from the Feywild, because in Dragonlance they were created by the Grey Gem and therefore giving Goblins a universal origin is wrong. </p><p></p><p>But that seems to me like a modeling problem. Just because Goblins come from the Feywild for even the majority of realities doesn't mean that they came from the Feywild for all realities. It could be true that they were created by the Grey Gem and that they came from the Feywild, and that they were born from Human/orc relations and that they are the First Children of Gaia. All you have to do is accept that the story being told is only one reality, and that there is another reality where a different truth is true. </p><p></p><p>All I'm trying to do is give people a different way to picture the Multiverse that allows for multiple versions of the same setting to concurrently be true, because that is EXACTLY how a multiverse should work. Which means it is highly likely that is how the people at WoTC are considering it. Fizban's has quite a few examples of this, including the dragon sight and the echoes. And I think this really ameloriates people's need to gnash teeth, because WoTC is just producing one version of events, not THE version of events.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8539235, member: 6801228"] So we both agree that WoTC is going to continue doing exactly what they have always done. So, can you explain to me why my model which requires no change in what WoTC has done, and only an acknowledgement that table games are equally canon to the books is a bad business decision like was claimed? Because, that's all my model does. Acknowledges that there are different, sealed, realities that can have different origins and rules but are still part of "the multiverse". And I was told this was a bad decision based on DnD tradition (which I am not addressing) and business, because WoTC doesn't want a Multiverse, they want a shared Universe where everything affects each other because that makes more money... despite them making good money having never done that. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// The Milky Way is a Galaxy, not a Universe. Universe, coming from the latin universus means "combined into one, whole". It is everything that is observable. If everything that was observable was found out to be the size of a marble, then out current understanding of the universe would be the size of a marble. At one point the universe WAS the size of a marble, due to the Big Bang, and so clearly size has nothing to do with it. Then what is it? As entropy and the heat death occur, and the stars fade and the galaxies rip apart and the planets turn to dust, what do you call the space they all inhabited that was once and still is all of observable reality? What is the name you give it, since you claim it can no longer be the universe? //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// My point was to address the gnashing of teeth. For example, earlier in this thread someone was complaining that Goblins can't all come from the Feywild, because in Dragonlance they were created by the Grey Gem and therefore giving Goblins a universal origin is wrong. But that seems to me like a modeling problem. Just because Goblins come from the Feywild for even the majority of realities doesn't mean that they came from the Feywild for all realities. It could be true that they were created by the Grey Gem and that they came from the Feywild, and that they were born from Human/orc relations and that they are the First Children of Gaia. All you have to do is accept that the story being told is only one reality, and that there is another reality where a different truth is true. All I'm trying to do is give people a different way to picture the Multiverse that allows for multiple versions of the same setting to concurrently be true, because that is EXACTLY how a multiverse should work. Which means it is highly likely that is how the people at WoTC are considering it. Fizban's has quite a few examples of this, including the dragon sight and the echoes. And I think this really ameloriates people's need to gnash teeth, because WoTC is just producing one version of events, not THE version of events. [/QUOTE]
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