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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 5775639" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>Sorry, you were misled by my admittedly unclear post.</p><p></p><p>I haven't used that spell...but in 30+ years in D&D, I may have played one single arcane caster with Fireball. My casters' spell selection is <em>always</em> linked to the nature of the PC. The last Wizard I played was a multiclassed specialist Diviner...and when that PC got retired at 10th level, one of his best (read only) offensive spells was <em><strong>Orb of Electricity.</strong></em></p><p></p><p>He was retired because RW pressures left the party with no healers. So now I run a "Swamp-Thing" inspired Sorc/Clc/MT/Geomancer. His arcane spells tend towards the..."earthy"...side. No fireballs, no lightning bolts...</p><p></p><p>And looking forwards, there will be no such spells. They don't fit him.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Did I say everyone was 100% happy with my PCs? They aren't. But neither does anyone else's PC meet with a 100% approval rating. </p><p></p><p>The closest anyone does is the guy who plays Wizards 85% of the time since 1986, and who only altered his spell list when the system forced him to. Which I find utterly booooooooorrrrrrriiiiiinnnnng. It also means that unless we have a big sign-up for a game, nobody else really gets an opportunity to play a Wizard.</p><p></p><p>But as for critiquing the choices of other players? It happens, but it's extremely rare beyond the PC generation stage since other people's PCs are none of our business.</p><p></p><p>Besides, even people not casting Fireball can contribute. Which my PC did. I can speak without fear of contradiction that my Diviner was the <em>sole</em> reason certain PCs in that campaign are still alive. Being "useful" depends a great deal on how you play what you have.</p><p></p><p>Final point on this: my specialist Diviner <em>was</em> in the same party as my buddy's umpteenth cloned Wizard. I proposed- in character- that our party would be stronger overall if we copied each others' spells into our respective spell books. Not only would it have boosted my PC's punch the spells in my book, it would have improved overall flexibility, and made it virtually impossible for the DM to do a "steal the spellbook, screw the Wizard" plot line.</p><p></p><p>He refused.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 5775639, member: 19675"] Sorry, you were misled by my admittedly unclear post. I haven't used that spell...but in 30+ years in D&D, I may have played one single arcane caster with Fireball. My casters' spell selection is [I]always[/I] linked to the nature of the PC. The last Wizard I played was a multiclassed specialist Diviner...and when that PC got retired at 10th level, one of his best (read only) offensive spells was [I][B]Orb of Electricity.[/B][/I] He was retired because RW pressures left the party with no healers. So now I run a "Swamp-Thing" inspired Sorc/Clc/MT/Geomancer. His arcane spells tend towards the..."earthy"...side. No fireballs, no lightning bolts... And looking forwards, there will be no such spells. They don't fit him. Did I say everyone was 100% happy with my PCs? They aren't. But neither does anyone else's PC meet with a 100% approval rating. The closest anyone does is the guy who plays Wizards 85% of the time since 1986, and who only altered his spell list when the system forced him to. Which I find utterly booooooooorrrrrrriiiiiinnnnng. It also means that unless we have a big sign-up for a game, nobody else really gets an opportunity to play a Wizard. But as for critiquing the choices of other players? It happens, but it's extremely rare beyond the PC generation stage since other people's PCs are none of our business. Besides, even people not casting Fireball can contribute. Which my PC did. I can speak without fear of contradiction that my Diviner was the [I]sole[/I] reason certain PCs in that campaign are still alive. Being "useful" depends a great deal on how you play what you have. Final point on this: my specialist Diviner [I]was[/I] in the same party as my buddy's umpteenth cloned Wizard. I proposed- in character- that our party would be stronger overall if we copied each others' spells into our respective spell books. Not only would it have boosted my PC's punch the spells in my book, it would have improved overall flexibility, and made it virtually impossible for the DM to do a "steal the spellbook, screw the Wizard" plot line. He refused. [/QUOTE]
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