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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5785086" data-attributes="member: 22779">For you maybe.&nbsp; To be honest, it's been so long since F&amp;F magic had anything to do with any of my D&amp;D games that I really don't miss it.&nbsp; I'd have to go back to very early 3e for the last time I saw any significant use of Vancian style magic.&nbsp; After that it was either things like Reserve Feats, spontaneous casters or other variants.See, and that's the thing.&nbsp; It's not like non-Vancian casters are something that D&amp;D never had.&nbsp; I had non-Vancian clerics in 2e - spontaneous casters that were limited/day - and it worked fine.&nbsp; The players that I've played with over the past ten years or so have had pretty much zero interest in standard Vancian casters.Thinking about it, about the only one who did play a Vancian caster was me.&nbsp; And that's probably because I'm used to it.&nbsp; I started playing D&amp;D considerably before most of my players (although that's no longer true in my current group).But, are you saying that if I had a group that didn't have any Vancian casters, but did include psionics and Tome of Magic casters, I'm not actually playing D&amp;D anymore?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5785086, member: 22779"] For you maybe. To be honest, it's been so long since F&F magic had anything to do with any of my D&D games that I really don't miss it. I'd have to go back to very early 3e for the last time I saw any significant use of Vancian style magic. After that it was either things like Reserve Feats, spontaneous casters or other variants. See, and that's the thing. It's not like non-Vancian casters are something that D&D never had. I had non-Vancian clerics in 2e - spontaneous casters that were limited/day - and it worked fine. The players that I've played with over the past ten years or so have had pretty much zero interest in standard Vancian casters. Thinking about it, about the only one who did play a Vancian caster was me. And that's probably because I'm used to it. I started playing D&D considerably before most of my players (although that's no longer true in my current group). But, are you saying that if I had a group that didn't have any Vancian casters, but did include psionics and Tome of Magic casters, I'm not actually playing D&D anymore? [/QUOTE]

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