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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9604163" data-attributes="member: 23751">Not just Planescape, though I'm sure it's there as well.&nbsp; The 2e MM writeup mentions, &quot;Although marilith are strategists and tacticians, they love to join combat and do so whenever the opportunity presents itself.&quot;I think(but not positive) that the Bloodwar stuff in Planescape mentions them being generals and tactical geniuses.I made no claim about 4e.&nbsp; I made an observation which hasn't and cannot be debunked.&nbsp; Now, it's based on only looking at 3 or 4 monsters, but the ones I have looked at are much sparser with regard to lore than some other editions.Let's look at orcs, one of those few I did look at.&nbsp; The 4e MM has 8 paragraphs of lore.&nbsp; The 5e MM has like 23 paragraphs of lore, and they are mostly longer paragraphs than the 8 in the 4e MM.&nbsp; The 3e MM has 9 paragraphs, so on par with 4e.&nbsp; The 2e MM has like 16, and includes orc ecology.2e and 5e blow the 4e lore on orcs out of the water. Now maybe I've just been unlucky and many other creatures have a dozen plus paragraphs of lore in the 4e MM, which is why I said &quot;It seems like...&quot; instead of making a claim about the edition as a whole.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 9604163, member: 23751"] Not just Planescape, though I'm sure it's there as well. The 2e MM writeup mentions, "Although marilith are strategists and tacticians, they love to join combat and do so whenever the opportunity presents itself." I think(but not positive) that the Bloodwar stuff in Planescape mentions them being generals and tactical geniuses. I made no claim about 4e. I made an observation which hasn't and cannot be debunked. Now, it's based on only looking at 3 or 4 monsters, but the ones I have looked at are much sparser with regard to lore than some other editions. Let's look at orcs, one of those few I did look at. The 4e MM has 8 paragraphs of lore. The 5e MM has like 23 paragraphs of lore, and they are mostly longer paragraphs than the 8 in the 4e MM. The 3e MM has 9 paragraphs, so on par with 4e. The 2e MM has like 16, and includes orc ecology. 2e and 5e blow the 4e lore on orcs out of the water. Now maybe I've just been unlucky and many other creatures have a dozen plus paragraphs of lore in the 4e MM, which is why I said "It [U][B]seems[/B][/U] like..." instead of making a claim about the edition as a whole. [/QUOTE]

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