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<blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 9610349" data-attributes="member: 83242"><p>I don't concede that demons have been consistently described as a "species*," but the types have been fairly consistent. Why that is can be for several reason, but I think it mostly boils down to it being a game / marketing. Once "types" are established it becomes easier (or lazier depending on how you want to look at it) to represent them in a particular way. Humans, and in particular corporations (like TSR and WotC), are moved to generally take the easier and safer option. There could be more reasons, but I think they are less likely / impactful to the consistency of demons.</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Its a game and people/companies take the easy, simple, safe, lazy route typically.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Small sample size. We have only ever had a handful of demons described against the billions/trillions/??? that exist. This is a statistically insignificant quantity to determine the "consistency" of a type.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Short timeframe. 50 years is nothing compared to the immeasurable amount of time demons have existing. That timeframe is statistically insignificant amount of time to determine the "consistency" of a type and possibly even to account for changes.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">I could give you "lore" reasons, but that would be just me making up lore to fill in gaps or what makes sense to me / I use in my games. The "official" lore that I am aware of is a bit thin and nebulous on this issue (though I don't know it all that is for sure).</li> </ol><p></p><p>*I want to be clear here that what I am pushing against is that demons, or any Outsider really, are a "species" in a scientific RL sense. IMO, they are manifestations of the outer planes (and in D&D terms this means Alignment). A species is a defined biological thing, and Outsiders do not, IMO, meet that definition.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dave2008, post: 9610349, member: 83242"] I don't concede that demons have been consistently described as a "species*," but the types have been fairly consistent. Why that is can be for several reason, but I think it mostly boils down to it being a game / marketing. Once "types" are established it becomes easier (or lazier depending on how you want to look at it) to represent them in a particular way. Humans, and in particular corporations (like TSR and WotC), are moved to generally take the easier and safer option. There could be more reasons, but I think they are less likely / impactful to the consistency of demons. [LIST=1] [*]Its a game and people/companies take the easy, simple, safe, lazy route typically. [*]Small sample size. We have only ever had a handful of demons described against the billions/trillions/??? that exist. This is a statistically insignificant quantity to determine the "consistency" of a type. [*]Short timeframe. 50 years is nothing compared to the immeasurable amount of time demons have existing. That timeframe is statistically insignificant amount of time to determine the "consistency" of a type and possibly even to account for changes. [*]I could give you "lore" reasons, but that would be just me making up lore to fill in gaps or what makes sense to me / I use in my games. The "official" lore that I am aware of is a bit thin and nebulous on this issue (though I don't know it all that is for sure). [/LIST] *I want to be clear here that what I am pushing against is that demons, or any Outsider really, are a "species" in a scientific RL sense. IMO, they are manifestations of the outer planes (and in D&D terms this means Alignment). A species is a defined biological thing, and Outsiders do not, IMO, meet that definition. [/QUOTE]
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