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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tsyr" data-source="post: 1026973" data-attributes="member: 354">It occours to me that one of the rules of this forum is no insults. Ah well.I'm not whining about being forced to buy them. I'm not. Buying them, that is. No interest. I found a place that sold Bags of Orcs a while back, and bought a bag of them. Skeletons are so easy to paint (A coat of off-white, maybe mist a squirt of grey or tan over them afterwords) that it's not even funny. Most other creatures I don't need hoards of.I think, though, you would have a few less "whiners", as you call them, if, even keeping the collectable line, wizards put out another series of boxes of "hoard" creatures... Orcs, Skeletons, maybe some Goblins and Kobolds, things like that. Things that people can often have a need for lots of. A lot of the complaints I have heard about the collectable line (Other than the general low quality of the minis we have seen thus far), is that it could be a potential time and money saver for getting hoards of critters, but Wizards chose to ignore that venue. So why don't they put out boxes of the hoard creatures? Heck, if they are so concerned about their precious mini game, put them out as a different series (On different bases, or something) that aren't legit for "tournament" play or something. Just for us DnD players... You know, their loyal flock, not the C*Gers hopping onto whatever the latest C*G craze is?</blockquote>