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<blockquote data-quote="(contact)" data-source="post: 1027078" data-attributes="member: 41">Here's the problem they ran into with Chainmail, and it's appearing again-- a D&amp;D branded miniatures game leads the TTRPG fan-base to belive that the product is produced for the TTRPG.Somewhere along the line Chainmail became a &quot;not compatible with D&amp;D, but we'll call it D&amp;D anyway&quot; game.&nbsp; It was a bad idea, and it died an early death.I get that they want a slice of the collectable minis pie, but come on.&nbsp; If they are interested in servicing the actual D&amp;D players with their &quot;D&amp;D&quot; minis, they will *also* produce some of the more common minis in packs of 4 or 8, so that the dedicated TTRPG gamers *could* put armies of orcs, or skeletons, or what have you onto the battle-mat.WotC *has* to find a way to straddle these two markets if they insist on continuing to cross-brand their freaking product lines.&nbsp; -----Re: usability, I don't know how representative of the &quot;average&quot; TTRPG gamer I am, but I love using miniatures, *and* will never paint them.&nbsp; The prospect of a line of cheap, color minis (particularly monsters) for my game is freaking exciting, and if it weren't for the random &quot;collectable&quot; marketing hustle*, I'd probably &quot;collect them all&quot;.&nbsp; As it is, I'll probably just pass.*And it is a hustle.&nbsp; Just because it's an industry-standard hustle doesn't make it any less shady.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="(contact), post: 1027078, member: 41"] Here's the problem they ran into with Chainmail, and it's appearing again-- a D&D branded miniatures game leads the TTRPG fan-base to belive that the product is produced for the TTRPG. Somewhere along the line Chainmail became a "not compatible with D&D, but we'll call it D&D anyway" game. It was a bad idea, and it died an early death. I get that they want a slice of the collectable minis pie, but come on. If they are interested in servicing the actual D&D players with their "D&D" minis, they will *also* produce some of the more common minis in packs of 4 or 8, so that the dedicated TTRPG gamers *could* put armies of orcs, or skeletons, or what have you onto the battle-mat. WotC *has* to find a way to straddle these two markets if they insist on continuing to cross-brand their freaking product lines. ----- Re: usability, I don't know how representative of the "average" TTRPG gamer I am, but I love using miniatures, *and* will never paint them. The prospect of a line of cheap, color minis (particularly monsters) for my game is freaking exciting, and if it weren't for the random "collectable" marketing hustle*, I'd probably "collect them all". As it is, I'll probably just pass. *[i]And it is a hustle. Just because it's an industry-standard hustle doesn't make it any less shady.[/i] [/QUOTE]

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