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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JoeGKushner" data-source="post: 2721236" data-attributes="member: 1129">But competitor's products have been out long before D&D minis came along. Reaper, Iron Wind, Magnificent Egoes, Games Workshop, Privateer Press, etc... Very expensive but well sculped in many cases and non-random. Still around.Prepainted minis have been around for a while too and some companies like Dwarven Forge (orcs, undead, and lizard men), got out of it while others like em4/Crystal Caste, are still around. The big thing stopping them from being big competitor's is probably price. It's about $25 for five figures and five d20 dice.Talking a palceholder for the figures and we've got Fiery Dragon, etc...At this point though, I feel I'm talking in circles.Moderators, can we break this thread off into two different threads? One about WoTC should be non-randomized and one with the original goal of the thread? To talk about miniature and miniature things we'd like to see for the line as is?</blockquote>