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<blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 3942549" data-attributes="member: 14159"><p>Speaking as a wikipedian that has been responsible for the deletion of hundreds of articles about local bands and other "speedy deletion" worthy material, here is a brief summary of why those kinds of articles are deleted on sight.</p><p></p><p>1. Wikipedia is not a place for self promotion. A good rule of thumb is that if you're notable enough to be on wikipedia somebody completely unaffiliated with you/your band/your club/your company will create the article. These garage band/fanzine/school club articles are typically blatant advertisements in glowing terms and read more like press releases than impartial encyclopedia articles. Because of a lack of sources, other editors can find great difficulty in making an impartial encyclopedia article on the subject.</p><p></p><p>2. Notability. The general rule of thumb on Wikipedia with regards to articles about bands is that they have to have made at least one song or album that placed somewhere on a major sales chart (or some other equivalent sign of success/fame/notability). If you haven't even ever placed anywhere on a chart, you probably haven't been very notable in the music world. One example from my experience on Wikipedia was the article on the band NB Ridaz, which was nominated for deletion as non-notable, but since one album they released once briefly made it to #62 on the Billboard Rap/Hip-Hop charts meant it pushed them just over into being kept. Just because a few friends got together once, practiced in a garage, and played a local club a few times does not make them worthy of an encyclopedia article. As it's sometimes put, will anybody care about it in 10 or 20 years? With most of these tiny insignificant bands (or fanzines or whatever) in a decade or two nobody will remember them and even the members/writers may well have forgotten about them. Wikipedia is for things that are expected to stand the test of time to at least some degree.</p><p></p><p>3. Verifiability. Stuff on wikipedia is supposed to be verifiable by independent sources. Tiny local bands probably don't have much media coverage besides maybe a listing of when they will be playing, they probably don't have books and magazine articles about them, and all the information in the article exists just because the person creating the article says so. Wikipedia is not meant to be a primary source, everything there is supposed to be sourced by some outside source that any wikipedian can theoretically go and check. With garage bands that's pretty much impossible.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wingsandsword, post: 3942549, member: 14159"] Speaking as a wikipedian that has been responsible for the deletion of hundreds of articles about local bands and other "speedy deletion" worthy material, here is a brief summary of why those kinds of articles are deleted on sight. 1. Wikipedia is not a place for self promotion. A good rule of thumb is that if you're notable enough to be on wikipedia somebody completely unaffiliated with you/your band/your club/your company will create the article. These garage band/fanzine/school club articles are typically blatant advertisements in glowing terms and read more like press releases than impartial encyclopedia articles. Because of a lack of sources, other editors can find great difficulty in making an impartial encyclopedia article on the subject. 2. Notability. The general rule of thumb on Wikipedia with regards to articles about bands is that they have to have made at least one song or album that placed somewhere on a major sales chart (or some other equivalent sign of success/fame/notability). If you haven't even ever placed anywhere on a chart, you probably haven't been very notable in the music world. One example from my experience on Wikipedia was the article on the band NB Ridaz, which was nominated for deletion as non-notable, but since one album they released once briefly made it to #62 on the Billboard Rap/Hip-Hop charts meant it pushed them just over into being kept. Just because a few friends got together once, practiced in a garage, and played a local club a few times does not make them worthy of an encyclopedia article. As it's sometimes put, will anybody care about it in 10 or 20 years? With most of these tiny insignificant bands (or fanzines or whatever) in a decade or two nobody will remember them and even the members/writers may well have forgotten about them. Wikipedia is for things that are expected to stand the test of time to at least some degree. 3. Verifiability. Stuff on wikipedia is supposed to be verifiable by independent sources. Tiny local bands probably don't have much media coverage besides maybe a listing of when they will be playing, they probably don't have books and magazine articles about them, and all the information in the article exists just because the person creating the article says so. Wikipedia is not meant to be a primary source, everything there is supposed to be sourced by some outside source that any wikipedian can theoretically go and check. With garage bands that's pretty much impossible. [/QUOTE]
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