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<blockquote data-quote="OB1" data-source="post: 8225024" data-attributes="member: 6796241">Gonna have to disagree with your assertion here.&nbsp; For one, everyone at a real D&amp;D table is aware that they are 5ish people having a nice time at the table with no real world stakes and it doesn't diminish the stakes in the game.To which one might argue, &quot;well, that's because it's your game and you have a stake in the outcome&quot;.&nbsp; And my counter will be the half million people who watch Critical Roll each and every week.&nbsp; With Critical Roll, a large portion of their audience doesn't even play the game, they just tune in for the story and to see a bunch of good friends having a great time.&nbsp; But Critical Roll has also driven new players to the game, and that's what I think the 'players having a nice time at the table' frame could do for the D&amp;D movie.If the stakes in the game narrative are compelling, the frame doesn't matter.&nbsp; I think the frame of 'players at the table having a good time' can add to the tone of the game narrative and help define the stakes there, alternating between fun, exciting, and dramatic, but that, unlike Princess Bride or The Lego Movie, the frame shouldn't have it's own stakes that are affected by the game story.&nbsp; That is very, very difficult to pull off well, and I think would diminish the point of the frame I'm suggesting, which is just to give the audience a look into what playing D&amp;D is all about.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="OB1, post: 8225024, member: 6796241"] Gonna have to disagree with your assertion here. For one, everyone at a real D&D table is aware that they are 5ish people having a nice time at the table with no real world stakes and it doesn't diminish the stakes in the game. To which one might argue, "well, that's because it's your game and you have a stake in the outcome". And my counter will be the half million people who watch Critical Roll each and every week. With Critical Roll, a large portion of their audience doesn't even play the game, they just tune in for the story and to see a bunch of good friends having a great time. But Critical Roll has also driven new players to the game, and that's what I think the 'players having a nice time at the table' frame could do for the D&D movie. If the stakes in the game narrative are compelling, the frame doesn't matter. I think the frame of 'players at the table having a good time' can add to the tone of the game narrative and help define the stakes there, alternating between fun, exciting, and dramatic, but that, unlike Princess Bride or The Lego Movie, the frame shouldn't have it's own stakes that are affected by the game story. That is very, very difficult to pull off well, and I think would diminish the point of the frame I'm suggesting, which is just to give the audience a look into what playing D&D is all about. [/QUOTE]

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