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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 2854389" data-attributes="member: 18280">Ah, Agent Oracle, but please note that they brought up the question as to the historical nature of ring mail.  They assumed that it was important, or of interest, to those playing the game.  The quote you used demonstrates only that the designers of 2nd Ed were worried about historical accuracy, not that they were not.Note also that the arquebus is not a fantastic weapon (although one might argue it is a poorly statted-out weapon) and the dangers are made apparent.  "Fantastic" things in this sense does not mean "really great" but "did not really exist".  If you tried, in real life, to use a gnomish pick, you'd need to worry about piercing your forearm (at the very least).  Likewise, an axe with double blades on both ends is as likely to be a danger to you as to your foes.  Yet, it is assumed that the D&D player will simply not notice these things, and no mention is made of them in the rules.Open your 2nd Ed Arms & Equipment Guide (which is, please note, where I said those details were found), if you have one, and you'll get as much or more detail on that armour and those weapons as you could possibly need.  This is not all in the PHB for the simple reason that this level of detail is not required in the Core Rules.  I do agree with you, though, that better depiction of armour would be useful in the Core Rules of every edition!   <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> However, again, the comparison is only relevant on this thread because of the claim that the typical Roman soldier wore armour equivilent to D&D banded mail.  I don't believe that anyone here has yet tried to claim that 3.X, in any official rules sense, has described either banded armour or Roman armour with anything approaching the detail of 2nd Ed's A&EG and Glories of Rome historical suppliment.</blockquote>

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