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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thaumaturge" data-source="post: 5895884" data-attributes="member: 1927">That's an interesting theory, but for me, it puts too much intention into the acts of those who have Lawyered Rules.You know, I actually think a significant part of the Rise of the Ruleslawyers, at least in my circles, is how the books changed. They went from often contradictory and vague tomes with an almost mystical feel about them to very clear and concise college textbooks style books. When we played with the first type of books, it was easier, often, to just left the DM say how it was than to search for a particular rule. In 3e and then 4e, the rule referencing was just so danged easy.Also, I was an adult with a degree while reading the most recent two editions, as opposed to a youth with low attention span and middling reading skills. Still, I say lets blame or praise the books and, by proxy, the writers for my failings. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />To circle back to what you disagree with me about, though, I think the rules-vaguery I mentioned, with my groups, was a reminder the DM was arbiter. He had to be. As the rules become easier to reference, perhaps some additional reminders in the player-facing text would have pushed back against the Rise. Perhaps not. As to those who are upset about the classification of races- this is how rules modularity looks. There will be things you don't like presented beside things you do. If you don't like some things, ignore them. Others will gain utility from such a rule or presentation, which is good for them. Know their eyes will occasionally have to have actual, visual contact with rules or presentations they dislike, but you prefer.If really necessary, have an eyedropper of bleach near your rulebooks at all time, so the pain of seeing a racial rarity that doesn't align with your homebrew is short.Thaumaturge.Also, don't do the eyedropper thing.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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