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<blockquote data-quote="Andor" data-source="post: 5877409" data-attributes="member: 1879">For my money the key is not breaking immersion. And that is highly subjective of course. But it comes at both ends, if there is a class with a martial daily which the character describes situationally in a way that adds to the experience I think few of us would have a problem with it, conversely I suspect even most hardcore 4e fans might have an issue with a player saying &quot;I'm casting fist storm! KamehaMEHA BOOM! Saiyin power FTW yo!&quot;And from the other end Wizards can choose to not ignore the importance of fluff this time around. If there are no martial daily abilities, but instead daily abilities used by some fighting classes but described as supernatural in origin, is that a problem? Because we had that all over the place in 3e from Monks to Paladins to Sword Sages. Actually Monks and Paladins had martial daily abilties even in AD&amp;D. And in AD&amp;D your Fighter could role for Psionic abilites and go around mind blasting people if he got lucky. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Andor, post: 5877409, member: 1879"] For my money the key is not breaking immersion. And that is highly subjective of course. But it comes at both ends, if there is a class with a martial daily which the character describes situationally in a way that adds to the experience I think few of us would have a problem with it, conversely I suspect even most hardcore 4e fans might have an issue with a player saying "I'm casting fist storm! KamehaMEHA BOOM! Saiyin power FTW yo!" And from the other end Wizards can choose to not ignore the importance of fluff this time around. If there are no [i]martial[/i] daily abilities, but instead daily abilities used by some fighting classes but described as supernatural in origin, is that a problem? Because we had that all over the place in 3e from Monks to Paladins to Sword Sages. Actually Monks and Paladins had martial daily abilties even in AD&D. And in AD&D your Fighter could role for Psionic abilites and go around mind blasting people if he got lucky. ;) [/QUOTE]

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