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<blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 5877996" data-attributes="member: 59506"><p>I'm confused, especially as you keep responding to a quote that was directed [MENTION=6670763]Yora[/MENTION], as if it was directed at you. The post your responding to here was my refuting you saying I was labeling Yora, which I wasn't. But you keep responding as if I'm talking about you.</p><p> </p><p>Apparently you find something in my post that hits a little too close to the mark for you. I'd say that has more to do with what you think about you, than what I think about you...</p><p> </p><p>But since you're the one that keeps bringing this up:</p><p> </p><p>Yes, conclusions can be drawn. Though with the amount of info we have, the conclusions that can be drawn only have a chance of accuracy the more non-specific they are. And, choosing to voice only negative conclusions is far from objective or fair. I'd go as far as to say it borders on fallacious.</p><p> </p><p>So yeah, I'd say that choosing to focus on the potential negative is <em>making up your mind to be against it</em>.</p><p> </p><p>There's so many possible varieties of response, from full-on fanboy, hopeful optimism, and even straight objective neutrality, that choosing to be expectantly pessimistic is a large indicator of one's mindset and approach.</p><p> </p><p>So, just as you say you're able to draw conclusions about D&D Next, we have more than enough info to draw conclusions about your state of mind on this.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>In light of that, I have a proposal. How about you list here the parts of the D&D Design Goals, any statements by the Design Team, and revealed parts of the system that you have problems with and why you believe they are leading to a game you won't care for...and we'll discuss them.</p><p> </p><p>I only ask one thing, that the assumed negativity be left out of the conversation and it remain objective. I'll do the same. No expectant pessisism on your part, no hopeful optimism on mine.</p><p> </p><p>Maybe it will even help you distill down your objections into a form that you can express on the WotC forums in a constructive manner. Seems to me that being a positive and constructive part of making a game that plays the way it needs to for you and other 4E fans, serves you much better in the long run than just giving unconstructive and negative criticism, and deciding it's not going to be your kind of game before you see it...</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>What do you say...?<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/glasses.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="B-)" title="Glasses B-)" data-shortname="B-)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="El Mahdi, post: 5877996, member: 59506"] I'm confused, especially as you keep responding to a quote that was directed [MENTION=6670763]Yora[/MENTION], as if it was directed at you. The post your responding to here was my refuting you saying I was labeling Yora, which I wasn't. But you keep responding as if I'm talking about you. Apparently you find something in my post that hits a little too close to the mark for you. I'd say that has more to do with what you think about you, than what I think about you... But since you're the one that keeps bringing this up: Yes, conclusions can be drawn. Though with the amount of info we have, the conclusions that can be drawn only have a chance of accuracy the more non-specific they are. And, choosing to voice only negative conclusions is far from objective or fair. I'd go as far as to say it borders on fallacious. So yeah, I'd say that choosing to focus on the potential negative is [I]making up your mind to be against it[/I]. There's so many possible varieties of response, from full-on fanboy, hopeful optimism, and even straight objective neutrality, that choosing to be expectantly pessimistic is a large indicator of one's mindset and approach. So, just as you say you're able to draw conclusions about D&D Next, we have more than enough info to draw conclusions about your state of mind on this. In light of that, I have a proposal. How about you list here the parts of the D&D Design Goals, any statements by the Design Team, and revealed parts of the system that you have problems with and why you believe they are leading to a game you won't care for...and we'll discuss them. I only ask one thing, that the assumed negativity be left out of the conversation and it remain objective. I'll do the same. No expectant pessisism on your part, no hopeful optimism on mine. Maybe it will even help you distill down your objections into a form that you can express on the WotC forums in a constructive manner. Seems to me that being a positive and constructive part of making a game that plays the way it needs to for you and other 4E fans, serves you much better in the long run than just giving unconstructive and negative criticism, and deciding it's not going to be your kind of game before you see it... What do you say...?B-) [/QUOTE]
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