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<blockquote data-quote="Tovec" data-source="post: 5878401" data-attributes="member: 95493"><p>In the only epic level game I ever PLAYED* we had a rogue who was the BEST damage dealer in the group due to his class and build. He was amazing. The next best was the barbarian-esque character who tunneled through a colossal plus construct in a single turn. I was the favoured soul who laid down amazing widespread damage to groups but I was not the powerhouse of the group.</p><p></p><p>It just goes to show that at least in some groups the caster is not the biggest gun and that all classes can shine in combat and out of it.</p><p></p><p>*I DMed one but I cannot remember all the classes involved.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Does that mean I will no longer be able to play my..</p><p></p><p>Druid/Barbarian/Warshaper/Bear Warrior :C no fair <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" /></p><p></p><p>But seriously, I am not recommending repeating this mistake either.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Good point, very good point. Love to XP you for it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>For the first part, I think psychology does have something to do with it. But I think you are placing a greater importance on psychology than what exists.</p><p>A: People do not like the system.</p><p>B: People do not like the format of that system.</p><p>C: Therefore, the format is to blame for the system.</p><p></p><p>Sorry but that does not follow. You could have said that people do not like the format because they do not like the system but not liking the format itself is not the cause. (I cannot use contractions due to stupid keyboard-ness so sorry if it is hard to read.)</p><p></p><p>As to the second part, once again this is saying that in a world with magic everything must be magical because without everything being magical magic could not exist. I find there to be a flaw in this line of reasoning too. People are not using meat magic, anymore than the fire elemental is using fire magic. Magic may be responsible for explaining why a guy is fighting an elemental but the elemental was not using fire to attack he is MADE of fire and is attacking. That is a big difference.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tovec, post: 5878401, member: 95493"] In the only epic level game I ever PLAYED* we had a rogue who was the BEST damage dealer in the group due to his class and build. He was amazing. The next best was the barbarian-esque character who tunneled through a colossal plus construct in a single turn. I was the favoured soul who laid down amazing widespread damage to groups but I was not the powerhouse of the group. It just goes to show that at least in some groups the caster is not the biggest gun and that all classes can shine in combat and out of it. *I DMed one but I cannot remember all the classes involved. Does that mean I will no longer be able to play my.. Druid/Barbarian/Warshaper/Bear Warrior :C no fair :P But seriously, I am not recommending repeating this mistake either. Good point, very good point. Love to XP you for it. For the first part, I think psychology does have something to do with it. But I think you are placing a greater importance on psychology than what exists. A: People do not like the system. B: People do not like the format of that system. C: Therefore, the format is to blame for the system. Sorry but that does not follow. You could have said that people do not like the format because they do not like the system but not liking the format itself is not the cause. (I cannot use contractions due to stupid keyboard-ness so sorry if it is hard to read.) As to the second part, once again this is saying that in a world with magic everything must be magical because without everything being magical magic could not exist. I find there to be a flaw in this line of reasoning too. People are not using meat magic, anymore than the fire elemental is using fire magic. Magic may be responsible for explaining why a guy is fighting an elemental but the elemental was not using fire to attack he is MADE of fire and is attacking. That is a big difference. [/QUOTE]
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