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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 8770963" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>Heh heh... but isn't a Summoner class that doesn't use masses of critters just a Pet class? Which we already have now several times over?</p><p></p><p>And even if we wanted a <em>usable</em> mass of critters for a Summoner class... a large number of small critters that all can be run really quickly... isn't that just a Swarm? Which-- while yes is supposed to be hundreds of critters-- is run exactly like a single monster? Which basically turns it back into a Pet class (but whose "pet" is a Swarm)?</p><p></p><p>Seems to me that neither the twain shall meet... you can't have a Summoner that uses masses of critters that actually plays like using masses of critters... while also not turning their turn into a gigantic slog of waiting for the player to move and attack with 5+ different tokens on the battlefield.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 8770963, member: 7006"] Heh heh... but isn't a Summoner class that doesn't use masses of critters just a Pet class? Which we already have now several times over? And even if we wanted a [I]usable[/I] mass of critters for a Summoner class... a large number of small critters that all can be run really quickly... isn't that just a Swarm? Which-- while yes is supposed to be hundreds of critters-- is run exactly like a single monster? Which basically turns it back into a Pet class (but whose "pet" is a Swarm)? Seems to me that neither the twain shall meet... you can't have a Summoner that uses masses of critters that actually plays like using masses of critters... while also not turning their turn into a gigantic slog of waiting for the player to move and attack with 5+ different tokens on the battlefield. [/QUOTE]
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