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<blockquote data-quote="mlund" data-source="post: 6251591" data-attributes="member: 50304">Frankly, I don't think being a low-level Cleric has anything to do with rank in the hierarchy. The idea that being able to drop spells, sling a war-hammer, and wear heavy armor has anything to do with qualification to shepherd a congregation or maintain orthodoxy among various cities and nations for a faith. Character-class clerics are derived from battle-chaplains and religious chivalric orders from the Crusades. Advancing in the Cleric class is about evolving towards some sort of avatar of your Domain or Diety, hands and feet and terrible swift sword if the situation calls for it.I think they could at least separate unlocking Domain Spells from the initial assumption of the Domain. Get your domain benefit at Level 1 with your domain. Get more spells at level 2. Unlock your Domain Spells at level 3.Really, the whole &quot;class initiation&quot; thing is just window-dressing for casters since they have spell levels anyway.- Marty Lund</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mlund, post: 6251591, member: 50304"] Frankly, I don't think being a low-level Cleric has anything to do with rank in the hierarchy. The idea that being able to drop spells, sling a war-hammer, and wear heavy armor has anything to do with qualification to shepherd a congregation or maintain orthodoxy among various cities and nations for a faith. Character-class clerics are derived from battle-chaplains and religious chivalric orders from the Crusades. Advancing in the Cleric class is about evolving towards some sort of avatar of your Domain or Diety, hands and feet and terrible swift sword if the situation calls for it. I think they could at least separate unlocking Domain Spells from the initial assumption of the Domain. Get your domain benefit at Level 1 with your domain. Get more spells at level 2. Unlock your Domain Spells at level 3. Really, the whole "class initiation" thing is just window-dressing for casters since they have spell levels anyway. - Marty Lund [/QUOTE]

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