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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 6251629" data-attributes="member: 1465">I agree very much with this!IMHO, they are now trying to narratively justify the domains at 1st level, but the truth is that they got stuck in this situation because they decided that domains should give bonus spells. So now, if you grant domain at 3rd level you would be in this weird situation when you all of a sudden get bonus spells of both 1st and 2nd level. It wouldn't be much of a deal for me to be honest, but I can see the weirdness of it. Moving domains up to 3rd level would require them to revise the mechanics for domains: I would do it, but obviously they don't want to because now it's too late for their schedule.Well at least if many of the classes get the subclass choice at 1st level (since they suggest also Warlocks and Sorcerers will), the Cleric ceases to be an exception to the rule, so all in all it becomes more acceptable for my tastes. But so long for the concept of &quot;apprentice levels&quot;... those are not so believable anymore if in fact some classes &quot;specialize&quot; at 1st level.---That said, the 3rd Q&amp;A is indeed a bit of an &quot;ouch!&quot; moment... multiplications have always been seen as potential cause of game-breakage in D&amp;D, therefore it's weird that they would let the number of attacks multiply.But maybe this is actually a way to boost fighters against spellcasters at very high level but... seriously... eight (8) attacks at 20th level? Even if it's max twice per battle (i.e. between short rests), it doesn't really sound likely that this will be the official rules. I would bet that they change their mind, and say in the final product that Extra Attack always applies once per round, and not once per attack action.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 6251629, member: 1465"] I agree very much with this! IMHO, they are now trying to narratively justify the domains at 1st level, but the truth is that they got stuck in this situation because they decided that domains should give bonus spells. So now, if you grant domain at 3rd level you would be in this weird situation when you all of a sudden get bonus spells of both 1st and 2nd level. It wouldn't be much of a deal for me to be honest, but I can see the weirdness of it. Moving domains up to 3rd level would require them to revise the mechanics for domains: I would do it, but obviously they don't want to because now it's too late for their schedule. Well at least if many of the classes get the subclass choice at 1st level (since they suggest also Warlocks and Sorcerers will), the Cleric ceases to be an exception to the rule, so all in all it becomes more acceptable for my tastes. But so long for the concept of "apprentice levels"... those are not so believable anymore if in fact some classes "specialize" at 1st level. --- That said, the 3rd Q&A is indeed a bit of an "ouch!" moment... multiplications have always been seen as potential cause of game-breakage in D&D, therefore it's weird that they would let the number of attacks multiply. But maybe this is actually a way to boost fighters against spellcasters at very high level but... seriously... [B]eight (8) attacks at 20th level[/B]? Even if it's max twice per battle (i.e. between short rests), it doesn't really sound likely that this will be the official rules. I would bet that they change their mind, and say in the final product that [I]Extra Attack [/I]always applies [I]once per round[/I], and not once per attack action. [/QUOTE]

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