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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 6252054" data-attributes="member: 1465">Indeed... personally I don't like 1st-level PC to have too much stuff, there is still 19 levels to get a lot of powers, I really prefer a game where you start with a low-profile and become a hero by doing. If I want to start as a hero, I start the game a few levels later. If I want to start as a superhero, I start the game at level 10 or similar. But if level 1 is heroic already, less than that is not really possible, at least not without heavy houseruling.But anyway, I don't think we actually asked WotC for this explicit &quot;apprentice levels&quot; concept. They brought it up themselves. Which is why it feels a bit dumb now to get some characters specializing/subclassing at 3rd level i.e. emphasizing level 3 as a point of change/specialization, while for others it really feels like there is only 1 apprentice level, and others they are never apprentices at all.What I mean to say is that, at this point I don't care much, because if 1/3 of classes get their subclass at level 1, then another 1/3 get it at level 2, and the other 1/3 get it at level 3, then the level of subclass choice is just a class feature (while if there was just one class getting it at 1st, then it would just feel like an unfair exception). No big deal then, but the whole concept of &quot;apprentice levels&quot; is just gone, and they should quit talking about it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 6252054, member: 1465"] Indeed... personally I don't like 1st-level PC to have too much stuff, there is still 19 levels to get a lot of powers, I really prefer a game where you start with a low-profile and become a hero [I]by doing[/I]. If I want to start as a hero, I start the game a few levels later. If I want to start as a superhero, I start the game at level 10 or similar. But if level 1 is heroic already, less than that is not really possible, at least not without heavy houseruling. But anyway, I don't think we actually asked WotC for this explicit "apprentice levels" concept. They brought it up themselves. Which is why it feels a bit dumb now to get some characters specializing/subclassing at 3rd level i.e. [I]emphasizing[/I] level 3 as a point of change/specialization, while for others it really feels like there is only 1 apprentice level, and others they are never apprentices at all. What I mean to say is that, at this point I don't care much, because if 1/3 of classes get their subclass at level 1, then another 1/3 get it at level 2, and the other 1/3 get it at level 3, then the level of subclass choice is just a class feature (while if there was just [I]one[/I] class getting it at 1st, then it would just feel like an unfair exception). No big deal then, but the whole concept of "apprentice levels" is just gone, and they should quit talking about it. [/QUOTE]

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