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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 6276918" data-attributes="member: 58197">Still not too happy about the bard being made a full caster. I guess we'll see how it pans out, but the odds of me giving the bard class a shot remain substantially lower.And expertise has been cut from straight +5 to doubling your proficiency bonus? What the heck? My group's single biggest problem with 5E has always been that skills are basically worthless; the d20 roll overwhelms your sad little modifier. Expertise was the one way of getting a bonus big enough to notice. Of all the things to nerf!Bounded accuracy makes sense in the context of attacks and defenses, because you still have hit points and damage as a way of distinguishing the mighty from the weak. But there are no hit points in a skill check. Bounded accuracy applied to skills just cripples the skill-monkey.</blockquote>