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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6277528" data-attributes="member: 22779">I honestly think that this bit better illustrates Exploder Wizards point.&nbsp; If you allow for skill levels to be so far apart, you basically create situations where you have to be this tall to ride.&nbsp; If the DC for doing something is 25 (for example) and the specialist is +22 and the non specialist is +4 (base stat bonus essentially) then one character is pretty much automatically succeeding while the other is automatically failing.&nbsp; And, in 3e, get that much of a spread in skill points wasn't all that difficult even by 5th or 6th level.&nbsp; Base skill +8, stat bonus +3, Synergy bonus +2, and that's without any feats, racial bonuses, magical buffs or anything.&nbsp; The untrained guy is about +3 and trained guy is +13.&nbsp; A ten point spread is already miles apart.&nbsp; I'm all for making the difference between the floor and the roof a bit smaller.&nbsp; You retain the differences and file off the extremes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6277528, member: 22779"] I honestly think that this bit better illustrates Exploder Wizards point. If you allow for skill levels to be so far apart, you basically create situations where you have to be this tall to ride. If the DC for doing something is 25 (for example) and the specialist is +22 and the non specialist is +4 (base stat bonus essentially) then one character is pretty much automatically succeeding while the other is automatically failing. And, in 3e, get that much of a spread in skill points wasn't all that difficult even by 5th or 6th level. Base skill +8, stat bonus +3, Synergy bonus +2, and that's without any feats, racial bonuses, magical buffs or anything. The untrained guy is about +3 and trained guy is +13. A ten point spread is already miles apart. I'm all for making the difference between the floor and the roof a bit smaller. You retain the differences and file off the extremes. [/QUOTE]

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