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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 6163088" data-attributes="member: 7006">They are "beginner-ish" in that they are actual game systems that a person can read, learn from, and use.  They instruct you on how to help create a well-rounded character or to create and run a scene that uses skill checks.  When the book could just say "you want to create a well-rounded character to play" but doesn't go into what that means or how a player might go about it... actually giving you a format and examples on how to *is* a system for new and inexperienced players to use.And as a matter of fact... yes, in fact the combat rules *are* for beginners too.  They teach new and inexperienced players how to run D&D combat.  So the combat rules are just like skill challenges and inspiration-- they are a set format that can be used to create (usually) workable situations that they are meant to accomplish.Now are they useful enough that even advanced players can use them and enjoy them?  Absolutely, and my third post mentioned that.  But advanced players can also rip apart the combat rules if they want and create their entire own from the pieces, they can create well-round three-dimensional characters without any help or aid from the book, and can create or improvise whole storylines without a format of when to ask for checks (if at all).  So the combat, skill challenge and inspiration rules are not necessary for advanced players if they don't feel they need them.  But they most certainly do work for them if they enjoy them or want to use an established game system.But there's no reason to deny that having a set of rules and game system is meant to help players learn to play the game and eventually play it well.</blockquote>

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