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D&D Next Q&A: Martial Healing, Fighter Utility, and Ranger Challenges
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<blockquote data-quote="Visanideth" data-source="post: 6101821" data-attributes="member: 6705825"><p>No, it wasn't.</p><p></p><p>The Warlord was the mechanical representation of a battle leader rather than a combat expert. 4E enabled its existence because the introduction of Power Sources allowed to split up the "Fighting Man" archetype or parent class into various different declinations, but if we take the Fighter as the weapon expert/first line warrior kind of character, then the Warlord is as different from him conceptually as the Ranger is.</p><p></p><p>The Warlord is a combat leader; he's a proficent combatant but he's not as focused on personal prowess as the Fighter is, specializing instead in leadership and enabling other characters through superior expertise and combat wisdom.</p><p></p><p>If you need fictional examples of how such difference can be justified well beyond "Fighter with high Charisma" vs "Fighter with high Dexterity", I can give you:</p><p></p><p>- Game of Thrones: once you rationalize that it's not Heroic Fantasy (so the power dial is turned very low), Bronn or the Hound are Fighters, the Imp or Eddard are Warlord.</p><p>- Berserk: Guts is a Fighter, Griffith is a Warlord.</p><p>- Greek Myth: Ercules is a barbarian, Achilles is a fighter, Odysseus or Jason are warlords.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And so on. </p><p></p><p>Incidentally, one of the positive benefits of the introduction of the Warlord (at least in an environment where classes weren't meant to represent super-broad archetypes) is that it divorced the Fighter from the role of generic, "doesn't do anything special and has no magic so he's the Dude With Swords" everyman and put him into the "ultimate weaponmaster of badassdom" position. In many ways I feel the Fighter needs the Warlord (and the Martial Power Source in general, with all the classes that got absorbed by it) because it allows him to stop being That One Guy Who's Nothing Special and gives him a greater purpose.</p><p>One of the reasons the Fighter has struggled for most of D&D's life is that it lacked identity: in a game where every class is pretty damn specific and meant to represent a fairly specific archetype, he was meant to represent pretty much anything that didn't have any magic capability (aside from the Thief/Rogue).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Visanideth, post: 6101821, member: 6705825"] No, it wasn't. The Warlord was the mechanical representation of a battle leader rather than a combat expert. 4E enabled its existence because the introduction of Power Sources allowed to split up the "Fighting Man" archetype or parent class into various different declinations, but if we take the Fighter as the weapon expert/first line warrior kind of character, then the Warlord is as different from him conceptually as the Ranger is. The Warlord is a combat leader; he's a proficent combatant but he's not as focused on personal prowess as the Fighter is, specializing instead in leadership and enabling other characters through superior expertise and combat wisdom. If you need fictional examples of how such difference can be justified well beyond "Fighter with high Charisma" vs "Fighter with high Dexterity", I can give you: - Game of Thrones: once you rationalize that it's not Heroic Fantasy (so the power dial is turned very low), Bronn or the Hound are Fighters, the Imp or Eddard are Warlord. - Berserk: Guts is a Fighter, Griffith is a Warlord. - Greek Myth: Ercules is a barbarian, Achilles is a fighter, Odysseus or Jason are warlords. And so on. Incidentally, one of the positive benefits of the introduction of the Warlord (at least in an environment where classes weren't meant to represent super-broad archetypes) is that it divorced the Fighter from the role of generic, "doesn't do anything special and has no magic so he's the Dude With Swords" everyman and put him into the "ultimate weaponmaster of badassdom" position. In many ways I feel the Fighter needs the Warlord (and the Martial Power Source in general, with all the classes that got absorbed by it) because it allows him to stop being That One Guy Who's Nothing Special and gives him a greater purpose. One of the reasons the Fighter has struggled for most of D&D's life is that it lacked identity: in a game where every class is pretty damn specific and meant to represent a fairly specific archetype, he was meant to represent pretty much anything that didn't have any magic capability (aside from the Thief/Rogue). [/QUOTE]
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