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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 6178915" data-attributes="member: 37579">The sorcerer is not the best example of this, as they were so similar to the wizard. But what about the wu jen? The shugenja? The warmage, or beguiler, duskblade, or spellthief?Even with the close overlap between the sorcerer and wizard there are examples. Pearls of power for one, as the sorcerer had to wait some time to get an equivalent. And there were a number of metamagic feats and prestige classes that didn't work well between the two. This is tangential to my point, as it's not specifically aimed at the sorcerer/wizard debate. But mage =/= wizard. The scholarly caster flavour is part of the wizardry class feature not the class itself. I imagine other bits of wizardly features will be moved out as the flesh out the class. Maybe. Maybe not.But, I could make the exact same statement regarding the "wizard" which is being given equal footing as a subclass. They might easily focus on sorcerer or warlock schools and leave the wizard under supported.Given we've only seen a small, small fraction of the potential magic items, and they have not modified those recently to reflect the change in direction with classes it is far too early to say. But I can imagine items aimed at mages that synergize with core powers, just like one can imagine items that work off of sneak attack or channel divinity.</blockquote>