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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 6273498" data-attributes="member: 37579">From earlier:Actually, I wasn't suggesting WotC buy retail, but pointing out that most dice retailers sell dice at $5+. So it seems likely that WotC would sell dice at a similar price point. So of the $20 product, $5 would be dice.. Then why have the range of prices? Does this price also include shipping from China?Nothing is expensive when you look at the manufacturing costs. The cost to print the 32-page booklets will also be under a dollar per book. But costs add up.It seems unlikely WotC will be able to put out a product at the same price as 4 years ago but with the same content, especially when they're asking 25% more for the PHB. Either content has to be removed or they lose money with every sale. It's been reported that back in the '80s the Red Box was marketed to new players but was primarily bought by experienced games while new players opted to buy the "real" game jumping right to AD&D. I don't see that mindset changing. Youths seldom want a youth-orientated or simpler version, they want to be treated like adults and get the real thing. If there is the option for complexity they will take complexity.</blockquote>