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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kinak" data-source="post: 6184002" data-attributes="member: 6694112">This is sort of a weak point. It's basically "3e/PF feels old to me" without any evidence to back it up.Now, it doesn't feel old to me. In fact, our playgroup is more excited for Mythic Adventures and the Advanced Class Guide than any books in the rules line up to this point. So, our excitement is pointed up, despite being in it from the beginning. I understand I'm not representative in the slightest, but the anecdotes come out in the wash.Regardless, though, there'll be plenty of people looking for new games. Some'll be coming from Pathfinder, some from 4e, some looking to fill time before 5 comes out, and others visitors from stranger shores. So, even if his predictions are flawed, it's still worth talking about what off-ramps people are taking.Cheers!Kinak</blockquote>