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<blockquote data-quote="amerigoV" data-source="post: 6184284"><p>FWIW, Savage Worlds was my off ramp in 2008/9. D&Ders wander in all the time over on Pinnacle's site. Its a rehab process to break them of their D&Disms <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. What helps SW is the designers were a part of the d20 boom (Deadlands, Weird Wars) so they overlapped with that key market for a time - they know their market segment well and take care of it. I also found a pack of Grognards over at Dragonsfoots because of SW - I think there was a period where many on that board gave a serious look to SW as a alternative to the older D&D editions. But I do not get that sense now (the SW material there is rather dated).</p><p></p><p>I suspect that we will stay Savages just due to (1) the system works for the group despite differences in play style and (2) it allows us to dip into different genres without having to learn a new system.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If we had not played Savage Worlds first, I suspect Dragon Age would have been my group's off ramp due to their bias towards fantasy genre games. I have the two box sets and will get the next one when it comes out, but I have never played it. A buddy of mine got to play it at GenCon, but I have yet to see it listed at Origins, That really surprises me given its name recognition. Maybe 2014 Origins will have a few games listed due to the popularity of the Tabletop episode.</p><p></p><p>My group got to play a bit of Dungeon World, but I have not tried it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="amerigoV, post: 6184284"] FWIW, Savage Worlds was my off ramp in 2008/9. D&Ders wander in all the time over on Pinnacle's site. Its a rehab process to break them of their D&Disms :). What helps SW is the designers were a part of the d20 boom (Deadlands, Weird Wars) so they overlapped with that key market for a time - they know their market segment well and take care of it. I also found a pack of Grognards over at Dragonsfoots because of SW - I think there was a period where many on that board gave a serious look to SW as a alternative to the older D&D editions. But I do not get that sense now (the SW material there is rather dated). I suspect that we will stay Savages just due to (1) the system works for the group despite differences in play style and (2) it allows us to dip into different genres without having to learn a new system. If we had not played Savage Worlds first, I suspect Dragon Age would have been my group's off ramp due to their bias towards fantasy genre games. I have the two box sets and will get the next one when it comes out, but I have never played it. A buddy of mine got to play it at GenCon, but I have yet to see it listed at Origins, That really surprises me given its name recognition. Maybe 2014 Origins will have a few games listed due to the popularity of the Tabletop episode. My group got to play a bit of Dungeon World, but I have not tried it. [/QUOTE]
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