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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 9256181" data-attributes="member: 5889">Yeah this is often my counter when people say “don’t ban spells there are always interesting ways to work around them”It’s true that as a dm I can design workarounds for various spells…and as a one off kind of thing that’s not a problem. The issue is when you have to do again and again and again. Good berry means that if I want any amount of resource based exploration in the game I am going to constantly be considering workarounds or special ideas or xyz. As a dm that gets tiring really quickly.It’s my same problem with the OG counterspell. I of course could create ways (and did create ways) for my monsters to work around it…but i got tired tbst any time I wanted a monster to be a spellcasting threat I had to use them.In quick summary: if a dm has to spend an inordinate amount of time adjusting their encounters for a single spell…maybe the spell is the problem not the dm</blockquote>