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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 9256909" data-attributes="member: 22779">You'd think.But, any suggestion that any addition of more codified mechanics is immediately jumped on as wanting to change the core of the game, hating gamers, &quot;if you want different rules, play a different game&quot; and generally followed by vaguely edition warry 4e references, not so subtle jabs that if only you were a better DM, you wouldn't have these problems and general, &quot;Well, I've never seen these problems, so they don't exist&quot;.And then it endlessly swirls down the drain.Like you, I'd pretty much take it as a given that 5e's exploration rules are &quot;underwhelming&quot;, but, right there, you used a negative adjective, so, you must hate the majority of gamers who are making 5e the most popular RPG that it is.I don't make the rules.&nbsp; But, after being absolutely dog-piled repeatedly for several years for saying exactly what you just said - 5e exploration rules are underwhelming, I'd like to see an optional add on that expanded the rules - I've pretty much despaired in going into those threads anymore because the conversation gets shouted down every single time.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 9256909, member: 22779"] You'd think. But, any suggestion that any addition of more codified mechanics is immediately jumped on as wanting to change the core of the game, hating gamers, "if you want different rules, play a different game" and generally followed by vaguely edition warry 4e references, not so subtle jabs that if only you were a better DM, you wouldn't have these problems and general, "Well, I've never seen these problems, so they don't exist". And then it endlessly swirls down the drain. Like you, I'd pretty much take it as a given that 5e's exploration rules are "underwhelming", but, right there, you used a negative adjective, so, you must hate the majority of gamers who are making 5e the most popular RPG that it is. I don't make the rules. But, after being absolutely dog-piled repeatedly for several years for saying exactly what you just said - 5e exploration rules are underwhelming, I'd like to see an optional add on that expanded the rules - I've pretty much despaired in going into those threads anymore because the conversation gets shouted down every single time. [/QUOTE]

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