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<blockquote data-quote="Obryn" data-source="post: 6098154" data-attributes="member: 11821">Kinda-sorta.&nbsp; What's important is that you (1) have a baseline established so you can create the ... everything else in the system ... around it.&nbsp; Then you can (2) show modular adjustments, with guidance on how it will change your game.I agree that it should be easy to change.&nbsp; I disagree that this implies that it isn't fundamental.&nbsp; It touches on spellcasting, combat, traps, out-of-combat healing, class features, weapons, feats, and so on.&nbsp; It's a central, core mechanic in one of the truest senses of the word for a game like D&amp;D.I'm glad that you think it's sufficient to make it a Fighter; it's good to see that some folks are liking the direction.I, however, disagree.&nbsp; I think the Warlord is just as thematically distinct as the Paladin, Ranger, and Barbarian.&nbsp; I don't consider Sun Tzu or Julius Caesar to be primarily Fighters.&nbsp; To me, Fighters should be amazing athletes who've reached the height of prowess at physical combat, using tools, armor, equipment, training, and their physical skills to their advantage.&nbsp; So, Beowulf?&nbsp; Fighter.&nbsp; Napoleon?&nbsp; Warlord.Should it be possible for a Fighter to easily mulitclass to a Warlord?&nbsp; Absolutely!&nbsp; But it's a distinct niche and deserving a class of its own.-O</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Obryn, post: 6098154, member: 11821"] Kinda-sorta. What's important is that you (1) have a baseline established so you can create the ... everything else in the system ... around it. Then you can (2) show modular adjustments, with guidance on how it will change your game. I agree that it should be easy to change. I disagree that this implies that it isn't fundamental. It touches on spellcasting, combat, traps, out-of-combat healing, class features, weapons, feats, and so on. It's a central, core mechanic in one of the truest senses of the word for a game like D&D. I'm glad that you think it's sufficient to make it a Fighter; it's good to see that some folks are liking the direction. I, however, disagree. I think the Warlord is just as thematically distinct as the Paladin, Ranger, and Barbarian. I don't consider Sun Tzu or Julius Caesar to be primarily Fighters. To me, Fighters should be amazing athletes who've reached the height of prowess at physical combat, using tools, armor, equipment, training, and their physical skills to their advantage. So, Beowulf? Fighter. Napoleon? Warlord. Should it be possible for a Fighter to easily mulitclass to a Warlord? Absolutely! But it's a distinct niche and deserving a class of its own. -O [/QUOTE]

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