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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nemesis Destiny" data-source="post: 6099354" data-attributes="member: 98255">Likewise, you haven't really explained anything to me about your point of view that resonates any more than "this is the way they're doing it, and I agree with them."First of all, I'm not arguing with you. I already stated that I'm not trying to win you (or anyone else) over. I just don't care that much what individuals who aren't designing the game actually think.Second, that's not the direction that I'm coming from. My position is more like "Warlords shouldn't necessarily be able to do what Fighters do" because I don't think they're in the same class, nor do I think that they share a whole lot of design space overlap. I think that there are some things that both those classes do and should do that neither should be able to replicate without multiclassing, for the same reasons that I don't want Wizards or other spellcasters to be able to poach a Warlord's abilities.Further, a Fighter in Next gets bonuses to Str, Con, or Dex, none of which really help a Warlord-ish build much; if they could take a bonus to Int or Cha, then maybe that would be a step toward embracing the idea, but even if they did, I would still prefer they get their own class. That seems to me like asking the Fighter chassis to do too much; it's just not focused enough at that point.Fine. I disagree.It's not about what you call it. It's more about the fact that, as I pointed out, the Fighter does not actually favor Int or Cha at all, and is thus a subpar option right out the gate.This is an entirely different ball of wax, but is also one which I don't agree with. A Warlord's abilities would be better represented by things that have the potency of spells, and if they're rolled into a Fighter chassis, Mr.-At-will-because-verisimilitude, they by definition can't do what I expect a Warlord to be able to do.I don't think we're going to see eye to eye on this, and I don't particularly care about that. What I do care about is whether or not my interests are being carried forward into the next edition of the game. So far, I am not seeing a lot of that happening, which is also fine. It also means I don't care about the next edition of the game.</blockquote>

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