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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 6099413" data-attributes="member: 82504">The statement that 4e made and yes the one encapsulated by the Warlord is exactly why I picked up 4e ... not sure statement is however the word I think of.... I see mechanics as a tool to establish expectations for the players and DM the classes being balanced and characters being able to contribute to roughly equal yet distinct ways via roles. Characters being heroic with comeback swings like second winds and not fragile mooks when you began play etc it was about establishing expectations.  I could pretty much put the book and mechanics aside and use high rolls are good for the actual game play once I have player expectations in place.</blockquote>