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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 2867962" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>Well, why else have him as leader, if it isn't that he can force you to take him? Out of respect for the strength? </p><p></p><p>Think, for a moment, about Star Trek. Folks cry to the skies that it is unrealistic to have your most valuable person (the Captain) going on away missions - you don't put your leader out in risky positions. Same logic should apply here - if the mightiest are the leaders, then the country either loses their leaders regularly, or they lose the services of their mightiest people.</p><p></p><p>Similarly, note that Arthur himself was not the greatest of the Round Table knights. And Merlin wasn't king. </p><p></p><p>Plus, the things that make you a mighty warrior or wizard of cleric do <em>not</em> make you the best leader - they don't have much in the way of social skills, which are paramount for a leader.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Neither here nor there, because, as you noted, others of similar power can and will stop them. Heck, groups of people of lesser power can and will stop them. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I will defer to a guy who has a gun. For the moment, while he's in my presence. That does not mean that I think he's a good leader. It only means that I don't want to be shot, or I need someone shot. When I need an ecomonic plan instead of physical force, the gun becomes much less relevant. If you don't have the skills to run a country, you won't hold the position long. And a high BAB doesn't give you those skills.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It can, if you want it to. But it doesn't have to. It isn't like religion and tradition are based on facts. </p><p></p><p>The people in the fictional world don't know from "character levels". Those are an out-of-game mechanic. In general, the fictional people don't have their levels stamped on their foreheads, and you don't see power until it is applied. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The people in the fictional world don't know from "character levels". Those are an out-of-game mechanic. In general, the fictional people don't have their levels stamped on their foreheads. They have some tangibles, but they are only seen when this prospective leader takes a risk. </p><p></p><p>Your level of personal freedom is directly tied to your system of governance. A society that keeps around a bunch of hihg-level paladins as police (and they're lawful, so they'll stick to their jobs as police rather than take command themselves) to protect the weak can have lots of freedom, too. There are many possible systems.</p><p></p><p>If the gods walk amongst men, by your logic the gods should be running things, not powerful characters <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 2867962, member: 177"] Well, why else have him as leader, if it isn't that he can force you to take him? Out of respect for the strength? Think, for a moment, about Star Trek. Folks cry to the skies that it is unrealistic to have your most valuable person (the Captain) going on away missions - you don't put your leader out in risky positions. Same logic should apply here - if the mightiest are the leaders, then the country either loses their leaders regularly, or they lose the services of their mightiest people. Similarly, note that Arthur himself was not the greatest of the Round Table knights. And Merlin wasn't king. Plus, the things that make you a mighty warrior or wizard of cleric do [i]not[/i] make you the best leader - they don't have much in the way of social skills, which are paramount for a leader. Neither here nor there, because, as you noted, others of similar power can and will stop them. Heck, groups of people of lesser power can and will stop them. I will defer to a guy who has a gun. For the moment, while he's in my presence. That does not mean that I think he's a good leader. It only means that I don't want to be shot, or I need someone shot. When I need an ecomonic plan instead of physical force, the gun becomes much less relevant. If you don't have the skills to run a country, you won't hold the position long. And a high BAB doesn't give you those skills. It can, if you want it to. But it doesn't have to. It isn't like religion and tradition are based on facts. The people in the fictional world don't know from "character levels". Those are an out-of-game mechanic. In general, the fictional people don't have their levels stamped on their foreheads, and you don't see power until it is applied. The people in the fictional world don't know from "character levels". Those are an out-of-game mechanic. In general, the fictional people don't have their levels stamped on their foreheads. They have some tangibles, but they are only seen when this prospective leader takes a risk. Your level of personal freedom is directly tied to your system of governance. A society that keeps around a bunch of hihg-level paladins as police (and they're lawful, so they'll stick to their jobs as police rather than take command themselves) to protect the weak can have lots of freedom, too. There are many possible systems. If the gods walk amongst men, by your logic the gods should be running things, not powerful characters :) [/QUOTE]
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