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<blockquote data-quote="Destil" data-source="post: 5433061" data-attributes="member: 1980"><p>PHB3 has only one real thing that's creep: psionic classes that can spam weakly augmented psionic attacks at high level all encounter (some of the level 1s that add ability scores to d20 roles for 1 PP are insane at level 16 or so when you've got double digit power points and a +7). And possibly some sick things you can do with hybrids.</p><p></p><p>The monk is <strong>heavily </strong>limited by action economy, and their striker feature works best when they're adjacent to more than one bad guy. They need that mobility to keep up.</p><p></p><p>The real power creep: Item Bonuses to damage and healing (actually, the problem with healing is all the items with untyped bonuses). Crazy surgeless healing powers (not that the PHB doesn't have Sacred Ground, still one of the biggest winners right there). Paragon and Epic tier feats that double leader healing by giving it to two targets. Being able to stack a dozen bonuses onto a basic attack (because they were all designed with the intent that basic attacks were week).</p><p></p><p>PHB1 has the Fighter, Pit Fighter, Daggersmaster, Divine Oracle, Archery Ranger, Hospilitar, Pole-arm Momentum, Lasting Frost & Wintertouched etc etc. Easily some of the most powerful stuff in the game, and the classes especially because of all the support are very very potent.</p><p></p><p>The power creep is pretty significant (I'm particularity miffed at 'double leader healing at paragon/epic and then double monster damage. 3 round combats were one the things 4E <strong>fixed</strong>), but it doesn't really render the game unplayable. Just means the DM has to be on their toes and know their stuff.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Destil, post: 5433061, member: 1980"] PHB3 has only one real thing that's creep: psionic classes that can spam weakly augmented psionic attacks at high level all encounter (some of the level 1s that add ability scores to d20 roles for 1 PP are insane at level 16 or so when you've got double digit power points and a +7). And possibly some sick things you can do with hybrids. The monk is [B]heavily [/B]limited by action economy, and their striker feature works best when they're adjacent to more than one bad guy. They need that mobility to keep up. The real power creep: Item Bonuses to damage and healing (actually, the problem with healing is all the items with untyped bonuses). Crazy surgeless healing powers (not that the PHB doesn't have Sacred Ground, still one of the biggest winners right there). Paragon and Epic tier feats that double leader healing by giving it to two targets. Being able to stack a dozen bonuses onto a basic attack (because they were all designed with the intent that basic attacks were week). PHB1 has the Fighter, Pit Fighter, Daggersmaster, Divine Oracle, Archery Ranger, Hospilitar, Pole-arm Momentum, Lasting Frost & Wintertouched etc etc. Easily some of the most powerful stuff in the game, and the classes especially because of all the support are very very potent. The power creep is pretty significant (I'm particularity miffed at 'double leader healing at paragon/epic and then double monster damage. 3 round combats were one the things 4E [B]fixed[/B]), but it doesn't really render the game unplayable. Just means the DM has to be on their toes and know their stuff. [/QUOTE]
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