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<blockquote data-quote="Steverooo" data-source="post: 995123" data-attributes="member: 9410">Hardly.&nbsp; MOST Peasants had weapons, other than clubs.&nbsp; MOST of the Men-at-Arms weapons were BASED upon agricultural implements!&nbsp; A woodcutter or charcoal burner has an axe, farmers have &quot;corn knives&quot; (AKA Machettes), sickles, scythes, flails, ad nauseum.&nbsp; Many peasants (and all Yeomen) had bows.&nbsp; EVERYONE had knives (because you ate with them, and other tableware was uncommon, at best, save perhaps, wooden spoons)!So, in walks a hunter, with bow, knife, handaxe, pack, and maybe some leather armor for keeping the thorns off his hide.&nbsp; He gets charged more for &quot;weapons&quot;?&nbsp; He's got nothing uncommon to the area, he could be a vagabond, for all the shopkeeper knows.&nbsp; Do travellers with their hiking staves get charged more, too?&nbsp; They could be poor farmers on holy pigrimage, for all the shopkeeper knows...Next, in walks my Ranger PC.&nbsp; He has a handaxe, longknife, bow and arrows, backpack, and glamered armor that looks like normal clothes... and the shopkeep can know to overcharge me because...?No, you said it, yourself: This is there to allow the GM &quot;Hand-waving&quot;, so they can set any price they want.&nbsp; All the rest is mere chicanery to try to prop it up.&nbsp; Meanwhile, the rest of us still want a more accurate equipment list, even if it's along the lines of &quot;Item A: 5-7 Silver Pieces&quot;.&nbsp; Pick any Medieval period.&nbsp; Hey, &quot;...and a 10' Pole&quot; looks pretty good!Furthermore, the &quot;Touristas-Pricing&quot; arguement is unsupported (nay, even over-ridden) by the Crafting rules.&nbsp; Nope, the PHB prices need to reflect the prices peasants can buy for.&nbsp; IF there are any assumptions in the equipment lists, such as &quot;Weight is actually bulk&quot;, or &quot;Prices are maximum prices; peasants pay 1/10th&quot;, I think they should be stated, even if it's in a &quot;Behind the Curtain&quot; in the DMG, somewhere.;-p</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Steverooo, post: 995123, member: 9410"] Hardly. MOST Peasants had weapons, other than clubs. MOST of the Men-at-Arms weapons were BASED upon agricultural implements! A woodcutter or charcoal burner has an axe, farmers have "corn knives" (AKA Machettes), sickles, scythes, flails, ad nauseum. Many peasants (and all Yeomen) had bows. EVERYONE had knives (because you ate with them, and other tableware was uncommon, at best, save perhaps, wooden spoons)! So, in walks a hunter, with bow, knife, handaxe, pack, and maybe some leather armor for keeping the thorns off his hide. He gets charged more for "weapons"? He's got nothing uncommon to the area, he could be a vagabond, for all the shopkeeper knows. Do travellers with their hiking staves get charged more, too? They could be poor farmers on holy pigrimage, for all the shopkeeper knows... Next, in walks my Ranger PC. He has a handaxe, longknife, bow and arrows, backpack, and glamered armor that looks like normal clothes... and the shopkeep can know to overcharge me because...? No, you said it, yourself: This is there to allow the GM "Hand-waving", so they can set any price they want. All the rest is mere chicanery to try to prop it up. Meanwhile, the rest of us still want a more accurate equipment list, even if it's along the lines of "Item A: 5-7 Silver Pieces". Pick any Medieval period. Hey, "...and a 10' Pole" looks pretty good! Furthermore, the "Touristas-Pricing" arguement is unsupported (nay, even over-ridden) by the Crafting rules. Nope, the PHB prices need to reflect the prices peasants can buy for. IF there are any assumptions in the equipment lists, such as "Weight is actually bulk", or "Prices are maximum prices; peasants pay 1/10th", I think they should be stated, even if it's in a "Behind the Curtain" in the DMG, somewhere. ;-p [/QUOTE]

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