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<blockquote data-quote="jgbrowning" data-source="post: 996507" data-attributes="member: 5724"><p>The internal inconsistances are the ones that concern me the most as well.</p><p></p><p>Some of the most volitile pricing in the middle ages were with fuel (wood) and good. Manufactured goods were a bit more stable, but still pretty significant. In the period between 1201 and 1381 the price of grain ranged from 20 grams of pure silver for 100kg to 80 grams. The disparity between the countires (only threee in this case, England, France, Italy) was as great as Italy at 65, while France was at 25. The graph is mountainous. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Relative prices of common commodities in England based upon the 1261-1270 period having a 100 value.</p><p>Firewood at 1320=277</p><p>Charcoal at 1320=193</p><p>Cattle at 1320=177</p><p>Wheat at 1230=166</p><p>Nails at 1320=91 (less expensive)</p><p></p><p>From NJG Pounds, "An Economic history of medieval Europe"</p><p>Oxen in England from 1208-1318 varied by 6-16.</p><p>Cheese in Englad from 1208-1318 varied by 6-12.</p><p>Wheat in Enland from 1208-1318 varied by 5-20.</p><p>Wheat in Ghent from 1380-1440 varied by a factor of 6.</p><p></p><p>One of the things to think about is how the price of firewood and charcoal would effect blacksmithing. I don't have enough sources to make a historiaclly accurate prediction, but when expenses for materials increases by a factor of 2-3 prices will reflect such changes, although far from proportionally.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think price inflation shouldn't be disregarded as price inflation is not a constant for each item. IE. inflation may be only .5% for manufactured goods, but 1.5% for food goods.</p><p></p><p>What this will do is make the point in time where you chose "typical Medieval price list" far from typical. If you choose to base your price variations based upon 1066 prices or based upon 1425 prices, you'll have a huge variance upon how things are related. Also, as demonstrated above, <strong>where</strong> you get your pricing informaton from can make a lot of difference.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yep, factor of fifteen seems silly. Could you lead me to some resources for pricing of weaponry/armor for the medieval period so I can do some comparisons? I've got more books than i wan't to look at right now (I know, I'm lazy).</p><p></p><p>I'm wondering if perhaps when making the lists, the prices used for research were from drastically different periods. Probably, mail was proportionally more expensive early on its usage.... hrm.. interesting thought.</p><p></p><p>joe b.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jgbrowning, post: 996507, member: 5724"] The internal inconsistances are the ones that concern me the most as well. Some of the most volitile pricing in the middle ages were with fuel (wood) and good. Manufactured goods were a bit more stable, but still pretty significant. In the period between 1201 and 1381 the price of grain ranged from 20 grams of pure silver for 100kg to 80 grams. The disparity between the countires (only threee in this case, England, France, Italy) was as great as Italy at 65, while France was at 25. The graph is mountainous. :) Relative prices of common commodities in England based upon the 1261-1270 period having a 100 value. Firewood at 1320=277 Charcoal at 1320=193 Cattle at 1320=177 Wheat at 1230=166 Nails at 1320=91 (less expensive) From NJG Pounds, "An Economic history of medieval Europe" Oxen in England from 1208-1318 varied by 6-16. Cheese in Englad from 1208-1318 varied by 6-12. Wheat in Enland from 1208-1318 varied by 5-20. Wheat in Ghent from 1380-1440 varied by a factor of 6. One of the things to think about is how the price of firewood and charcoal would effect blacksmithing. I don't have enough sources to make a historiaclly accurate prediction, but when expenses for materials increases by a factor of 2-3 prices will reflect such changes, although far from proportionally. I think price inflation shouldn't be disregarded as price inflation is not a constant for each item. IE. inflation may be only .5% for manufactured goods, but 1.5% for food goods. What this will do is make the point in time where you chose "typical Medieval price list" far from typical. If you choose to base your price variations based upon 1066 prices or based upon 1425 prices, you'll have a huge variance upon how things are related. Also, as demonstrated above, [b]where[/b] you get your pricing informaton from can make a lot of difference. Yep, factor of fifteen seems silly. Could you lead me to some resources for pricing of weaponry/armor for the medieval period so I can do some comparisons? I've got more books than i wan't to look at right now (I know, I'm lazy). I'm wondering if perhaps when making the lists, the prices used for research were from drastically different periods. Probably, mail was proportionally more expensive early on its usage.... hrm.. interesting thought. joe b. [/QUOTE]
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