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<blockquote data-quote="Scott Christian" data-source="post: 8534722" data-attributes="member: 6901101"><p>No offense, but how is anything Hexmage or OOfta or Imaculata said in those quotes proving your claim?</p><p></p><p>The claim is inherent evil + language used that connotes past atrocities = bad.</p><p></p><p>Hexmage says he would rather keep the alignment mechanic than orcs. That's it. That is his preference. There are no racist tones. He likes alignment. Are you now saying alignment is the problem?</p><p></p><p>And the only thing Oofta said (the one I liked) was it is difficult to write up something evil (in this case Redcaps) without using some past language that may have been used elsewhere. He said it is difficult, and I think the very fact we have 5e, that was made in 2014 that <em>still did it</em>, is functional proof he is correct. </p><p></p><p>And Imaculata stated that fictional worlds often have very simple moralities. He compares orcs to stormtroopers - there to fill a purpose for <strong>his game</strong>. </p><p></p><p>Sorry, but you cherry picking one liners and avoiding all context does this thread a disservice. </p><p></p><p>And again, if you want to help, rewrite the orc with language that is inoffensive to all groups. Make it inclusive.</p><p></p><p>If you don't want to help, and just want to espouse that people should never use just evil orcs - then say it. Say, "No one should be allowed to have orcs that are just evil - even if the language is fixed."</p><p></p><p>Either way - be clear.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scott Christian, post: 8534722, member: 6901101"] No offense, but how is anything Hexmage or OOfta or Imaculata said in those quotes proving your claim? The claim is inherent evil + language used that connotes past atrocities = bad. Hexmage says he would rather keep the alignment mechanic than orcs. That's it. That is his preference. There are no racist tones. He likes alignment. Are you now saying alignment is the problem? And the only thing Oofta said (the one I liked) was it is difficult to write up something evil (in this case Redcaps) without using some past language that may have been used elsewhere. He said it is difficult, and I think the very fact we have 5e, that was made in 2014 that [I]still did it[/I], is functional proof he is correct. And Imaculata stated that fictional worlds often have very simple moralities. He compares orcs to stormtroopers - there to fill a purpose for [B]his game[/B]. Sorry, but you cherry picking one liners and avoiding all context does this thread a disservice. And again, if you want to help, rewrite the orc with language that is inoffensive to all groups. Make it inclusive. If you don't want to help, and just want to espouse that people should never use just evil orcs - then say it. Say, "No one should be allowed to have orcs that are just evil - even if the language is fixed." Either way - be clear. [/QUOTE]
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