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<blockquote data-quote="barasawa" data-source="post: 7724523" data-attributes="member: 44909">Thanks lowkey13, but the articles I saw said specifically &quot;media shifting&quot; as they were talking about changing it from one form of media to another. After all, format shifting would included various different file types, and I suspect pull in some other meanings that lawyers like to use. I'm not talking backups, I'm specifically talking about making things you own that you need to use on some different type of media. For instance, an audio recording into braille, or the reverse of that - a physical book into audio, a cd into a computer file for an ipod or other portable device, etc.&nbsp; Most of the examples they used were obviously intended for those with disabilities, but they weren't restricted to that and included a lot of others. It's part of what was considered &quot;fair use&quot; by the court.&nbsp; Backups are a whole different discussion. Of course other countries have different rules. I forgot to account for those outside the USA. Sorry about that.&nbsp; The laws don't prevent you from converting it to a different media, though they do prevent you from breaking any DRM except in some vary restrictive cases, but books don't have DRM.&nbsp; They do however prevent you from sharing those personal media shifted copies with anyone else. Though there is nothing legally wrong with you having it, and the law doesn't make a distinction as to who made it, just who 'distributed' it. Wow, you have an ISP that spies on what you do on the net?&nbsp; Get a new ISP. Sure, that won't help you if the cops are after you, but damn, they should keep their nose out of your business if there's no legal warrant involved.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="barasawa, post: 7724523, member: 44909"] Thanks lowkey13, but the articles I saw said specifically "media shifting" as they were talking about changing it from one form of media to another. After all, format shifting would included various different file types, and I suspect pull in some other meanings that lawyers like to use. I'm not talking backups, I'm specifically talking about making things you own that you need to use on some different type of media. For instance, an audio recording into braille, or the reverse of that - a physical book into audio, a cd into a computer file for an ipod or other portable device, etc. Most of the examples they used were obviously intended for those with disabilities, but they weren't restricted to that and included a lot of others. It's part of what was considered "fair use" by the court. Backups are a whole different discussion. Of course other countries have different rules. I forgot to account for those outside the USA. Sorry about that. The laws don't prevent you from converting it to a different media, though they do prevent you from breaking any DRM except in some vary restrictive cases, but books don't have DRM. They do however prevent you from sharing those personal media shifted copies with anyone else. Though there is nothing legally wrong with you having it, and the law doesn't make a distinction as to who made it, just who 'distributed' it. Wow, you have an ISP that spies on what you do on the net? Get a new ISP. Sure, that won't help you if the cops are after you, but damn, they should keep their nose out of your business if there's no legal warrant involved. [/QUOTE]

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