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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jaeger" data-source="post: 9341810" data-attributes="member: 27996">I said my argument was not based on any "long standing custom or general consensus"; i.e. it was not a prescriptive one like you claimed. But truth based.But if you want to go there: Do a search on this or any other D&D related forum.Find me the discussion thread outside of this topic where the Red Box Warrior being a man is in doubt or questioned.As Elmore has said: "There was never a question in all these years about the male warrior. No one thought it was a female warrior." It does when we have the facts straight from the artist that drew it in the first place.Otherwise you are claiming that Elmore didn't know what he was saying or drawing.And as has been previously stated:But Elmore's statement is Exhibit B.Exhibit A is the painting itself.It is quite straightforward why this:[ATTACH=full]362578[/ATTACH]Disproves all of this:For the above two statements to be true, one would have to accept that Larry Elmore does not know how to convey the differences between the male and female form in his art.I don't think you would find many that would agree with such a proposition.Simplified examples: (Compare to the warrior image above)[ATTACH=full]362579[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]362580[/ATTACH]In every aspect that is visible to the eye; The Red box warrior conforms to a depiction of the male form.Elmore has drawn several pieces of women from the back not showing their chest or faces. (I will refrain from posting them here) yet somehow, they are unambiguously women. Suffice it to say: "If it was a woman, you would know it for I'm pretty famous for painting women."This is easily proven by comparing any of the Elmore pieces showing women from the back or at a backwards angle to the red box warrior painting.When looking at his artwork; no one can reasonably claim that Elmore's chosen depiction of the Red Box Warrior is genderless, or unidentifiable as a man.This whole thing is just a ham-fisted gender swap done by Wizkids/Wotc for their own purposes.I am personally inclined towards the following explanation:I personally find that whole shtick rather underwhelming at this point.</blockquote>

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