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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 9342894" data-attributes="member: 85555"><p>This probably takes us far afield. But I think maybe part of what [USER=19675]@Dannyalcatraz[/USER] was getting at is the more and more you do this, the further away from the original work you get. Someone may have made a new version that exceeds the quality of the original. But over time, as more and more people imitate that, I think it is wise to go back to the original and find its spirit (I think this is something that has clearly happened with Hallelujah, where the Buckley version or even the Rufus Wainwright version is arguably better----Cohen's original is actually rather rough sounding). But we are now at the point where everything is a copy of the copy of the copy and it is just a parody of the original now (in the way that imitations of Whale's version of the Frankenstein's creature are just green ornaments more than anything terrifying). </p><p></p><p>On technique, I think there is always value in going back to the original and seeking the original creator's intentions and style. There are a few famous riffs and solos that people regularly get wrong, because people with great technique have done their own versions and these get passed down. Smoke on the Water is a famous example, though Ritchie Blackmore is a notorious fibber so you actually need to go back to the footage with a guy like him and try to figure out exactly how he plays that riff. An example I can think of in my own playing is I somehow learned a version of Children of the Damned that goes Em G Am C D rather than Em G D C D (going by memory here so apologies if I mixed any of this up). Somehow someone along the line heard the D as an Am. And I never noticed even after playing it for years (though I understand something was missing). It took sitting down and paying attention to the original chords to realize the error I had learned. And I don't know, maybe it is somehow possible, do to other notes being played in the background, to hear Am there. I am unsure what led to the original error. And I do sometimes enjoy that E G Am C D chord progression. But it wasn't the original intent. And I am not saying my rendering is definitive, I could easily be wrong about one of these chords (especially as my hearing isn't what it used to be). But reasons like this are why, while you can often learn a lot from players on youtube or newer players who have more clear versions of songs, its good to go back to the original and make sure something is not getting lost. Also in many ways, guitar playing is better than it has ever been. We live in an age of virtuosity guitar. There are peopel on youtube with better technique than many of the greats I grew up listening to. But it isn't technique alone that made those players great. So even if someone comes along and exceeds them, there is value in going back</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 9342894, member: 85555"] This probably takes us far afield. But I think maybe part of what [USER=19675]@Dannyalcatraz[/USER] was getting at is the more and more you do this, the further away from the original work you get. Someone may have made a new version that exceeds the quality of the original. But over time, as more and more people imitate that, I think it is wise to go back to the original and find its spirit (I think this is something that has clearly happened with Hallelujah, where the Buckley version or even the Rufus Wainwright version is arguably better----Cohen's original is actually rather rough sounding). But we are now at the point where everything is a copy of the copy of the copy and it is just a parody of the original now (in the way that imitations of Whale's version of the Frankenstein's creature are just green ornaments more than anything terrifying). On technique, I think there is always value in going back to the original and seeking the original creator's intentions and style. There are a few famous riffs and solos that people regularly get wrong, because people with great technique have done their own versions and these get passed down. Smoke on the Water is a famous example, though Ritchie Blackmore is a notorious fibber so you actually need to go back to the footage with a guy like him and try to figure out exactly how he plays that riff. An example I can think of in my own playing is I somehow learned a version of Children of the Damned that goes Em G Am C D rather than Em G D C D (going by memory here so apologies if I mixed any of this up). Somehow someone along the line heard the D as an Am. And I never noticed even after playing it for years (though I understand something was missing). It took sitting down and paying attention to the original chords to realize the error I had learned. And I don't know, maybe it is somehow possible, do to other notes being played in the background, to hear Am there. I am unsure what led to the original error. And I do sometimes enjoy that E G Am C D chord progression. But it wasn't the original intent. And I am not saying my rendering is definitive, I could easily be wrong about one of these chords (especially as my hearing isn't what it used to be). But reasons like this are why, while you can often learn a lot from players on youtube or newer players who have more clear versions of songs, its good to go back to the original and make sure something is not getting lost. Also in many ways, guitar playing is better than it has ever been. We live in an age of virtuosity guitar. There are peopel on youtube with better technique than many of the greats I grew up listening to. But it isn't technique alone that made those players great. So even if someone comes along and exceeds them, there is value in going back [/QUOTE]
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