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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 9343531" data-attributes="member: 22779">Ok, look, it's really easy to show why the whole primacy of the author argument doesn't hold any water.  Never minding the literary criticism aspect, simply look at the practical.[USER=23751]@Maxperson[/USER] insists that Mary Shelly came up with the specific look and method for the creation of Frankenstein's Monster.  Ok.  Prove it.  See, most artistic endevours are very, very rarely done in a vacuum.  An author almost never writes a work and then publishes that work, all on his or her own.  You have editiors, often teams of editors, colleagues who help you with ideas, friends who you talk to and suggest things, so on and so forth.  Did that bit in that story come from the author or was it put there by an editor, or even did that idea come from someone else entirely?  We cannot prove any of it.  Even if the people involved are alive, it's unlikely they actually know and, even if they do know, we can only take their word for it.Yet, no one talks about what did the editor mean when Character X said Y.  And, [USER=85555]@Bedrockgames[/USER], I have no idea what you mean.  When I went to school, if you suggested that post Modern criticism was wrong and Modernism (which is what you're suggesting) is a better form of criticism, you'd get laughed out of the room.  If your professors let you off with a "well, it's a nice idea, go check out these books", you should be going back to your alma mater and asking for some money back.  The Well Wrought Urn got broken in the 50's and 60's and no one is even remotely suggesting it should be put back together now.</blockquote>

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