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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 9717744" data-attributes="member: 2525">And I think that's after-the-fact copium.Half-elves have been in the game since 1e, and half-orcs I think the same? One or both are prominent named figures in the history of not one, but almost every single setting WOTC ever put out. At various times they ranged from major to minor differences from full elves or orcs and full humans, but always had noteworthy differences including in particular named cultural differences. They're in almost every published adventure, there are even deities of those races, and now one of them is in a new adventure which came out after 2024 had been out for quite a while now.It's not wasted book real-estate to mention what the F is going on here and how the game is trying to address it. Even if it's just the &quot;choose your parents&quot; they 100% should have said that. The fact they pulled it specifically, after having written rules for it, tells me that isn't the rule anymore. It tells me they're not sure what they want the rule to be yet, and so are punting this to some future book.And it's surely fair to point out this elephant in the room after someone just wrongly claimed they were in fact in the books and everyone is just exaggerating their absence. That is either someone who is mistaken (which is what this turned out to be), or someone trying to gaslight people.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 9717744, member: 2525"] And I think that's after-the-fact copium. Half-elves have been in the game since 1e, and half-orcs I think the same? One or both are prominent named figures in the history of not one, but almost every single setting WOTC ever put out. At various times they ranged from major to minor differences from full elves or orcs and full humans, but always had noteworthy differences including in particular named cultural differences. They're in almost every published adventure, there are even deities of those races, and now one of them is in a new adventure which came out after 2024 had been out for quite a while now. It's not wasted book real-estate to mention what the F is going on here and how the game is trying to address it. Even if it's just the "choose your parents" they 100% should have said that. The fact they pulled it specifically, after having written rules for it, tells me that isn't the rule anymore. It tells me they're not sure what they want the rule to be yet, and so are punting this to some future book. And it's surely fair to point out this elephant in the room after someone just wrongly claimed they were in fact in the books and everyone is just exaggerating their absence. That is either someone who is mistaken (which is what this turned out to be), or someone trying to gaslight people. [/QUOTE]

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