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Message: <blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 5657238" data-attributes="member: 22424">Very true. Nonetheless, I do think it's important for WotC to be very wary as to which lessons they learn from the past. Suggesting that a complex system is the way to go because in the past people seemed to like it because it was complex would seem to me to be one example of an unwise choice, as I've outlined previously.I never really played 1st Ed, but I did play 2nd extensively. And while I would never go back to that edition, or one like it, there's certainly no denying that I had a huge amount of fun with that system at the time.That might well depend on whether by "the rules should fit one one page" you mean that everything should fit on one page or all "the rules" (but not the full set of all the options) should fit on one page. (Though that latter is still probably over ambitious.)I mean, if you look at the 4e core rulebooks and rip out everything that isn't strictly a rule (that is, all the classes, all the powers, all the monsters), you're actually left with a pretty lean book. The bulk of it is options rather than rules - which are probably not objectionable to many folk.(Although you still want to be careful not to drown your newbie players in a sea of options, of course!)</blockquote>