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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Paraxis" data-source="post: 3526742" data-attributes="member: 13009">If you are thinking of using HP kicker, run this through your cortex.   In a campaign I played in the DM used your Con as kind of a HP bonus. What happened was after you went through your hit points which represented nicks/scrapes and what not then damage went to Con scorewhich would drop to 1 then you would go down the 0 to -10 hp track of unconscious/dying.This made people live through the orc with the axe but put you down con for days sometimes.I do think that the whole 3 times thing in StarWars is all about being able to live through one blaster hit or light saber swing.I'll second, starting games at higher level I use 2nd so people can multi-class and it make sense with back story and allow people to play EL +1 races.</blockquote>