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<blockquote data-quote="Flynn" data-source="post: 3527274" data-attributes="member: 1836">To be truthful, there are only a few things that really drive the 1st level push for me: I'd rather the PCs not have access to second level spells right off the bat. I don't want PCs to start off with second level or third level special abilities at the start of their careers, but rather grow into them. I don't want to start with the potential for multiclassed characters. It's that kind of thing.If you give characters the abilities of second and third level characters, they are no longer first level characters. I'm not talking about giving anyone those abilities. I'm just talking about adding some hitpoints to help them survive at the lowest level of play. I don't consider a hitpoint bonus to be &quot;giving them the benefits of 3rd level&quot;, as you put it, but I think I'm in the minority here. BTW, I didn't mean that poorly or anything. I just have a different concept of what &quot;give them the benefits of 3rd level&quot; means, I guess. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Maybe this was just a dumb idea on my part. Oh, well.Anyway, thanks for clarifying your position here. Hope this helps clarify mine.Hasta,Flynn</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Flynn, post: 3527274, member: 1836"] To be truthful, there are only a few things that really drive the 1st level push for me: I'd rather the PCs not have access to second level spells right off the bat. I don't want PCs to start off with second level or third level special abilities at the start of their careers, but rather grow into them. I don't want to start with the potential for multiclassed characters. It's that kind of thing. If you give characters the abilities of second and third level characters, they are no longer first level characters. I'm not talking about giving anyone those abilities. I'm just talking about adding some hitpoints to help them survive at the lowest level of play. I don't consider a hitpoint bonus to be "giving them the benefits of 3rd level", as you put it, but I think I'm in the minority here. BTW, I didn't mean that poorly or anything. I just have a different concept of what "give them the benefits of 3rd level" means, I guess. :) Maybe this was just a dumb idea on my part. Oh, well. Anyway, thanks for clarifying your position here. Hope this helps clarify mine. Hasta, Flynn [/QUOTE]

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