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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Grayhawk" data-source="post: 1817139" data-attributes="member: 11288">I can certainly understand where you're comming from, but I feel that the opposite point could just as easily be made: Why wouldn't it be harder to hit someone in a full platemail and a large shield with your Inflict Critical Wounds, opposed to the naked guy beside him?Remember that earlier editions got by just fine without a touch AC, so you just have to envision these situations like you did before.See above. It also helps to not think of such attacks as 'touch attacks' as they will no longer be called that with the removal of the touch AC. They are just 'attacks'. Like they were before 3.x.Very good example. It forces me to address a point that I was hoping to avoid in this thread:The system I'm making will see a lot of changes. As much of 3.x is very interdependent, you really have to [make a lot of changes] as things quickly break down otherwise. For one thing, this system is only planned to go to 15th level, so I don't have to bother about balancing it at levels that won't see play for many years (if ever) in my campaign. Another integral part of my variant is that it will be used for slightly lower powered and slightly lower magic games. As such, the best AC you could hope for at low levels is about 21, from a full plate armor, a large shield and a Dex of 12. And you won't afford that armor for the first couple of levels. Even now, in our 3.x campaign, AC's in the mid 20's are considered high for characters around 10th level. Add the Beholder's Int bonus to his attack roll - for a total of +16 - and it'll hit at least half the time.Which is why I came here, looking for input on how to balance it. Obviously you seem to think that caster level isn't enough and I agree. But what if you add in the bonus from your caster stat?A caster stat of 16 will make you hit that Goblin with it's leather armor and small shield just as often as before. But I'm very interested in hearing about examples where this system scales badly, especially with regards to spellcasters vs monsters. Like I said above, it's all but impossible to change aspects of 3.x without needing changes somewhere else. E.g., remove AoO's and a whole bunch of stuff has to be addressed. But if I wasn't prepared to do so, I wouldn't be doing this  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />So, for the next question, consider a system without a touch AC:What mechanic should be used to make the spells that require an attack roll have a comparable chance of hitting?(Comparable to the current chance of touch attack vs touch AC.)</blockquote>

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