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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9410489" data-attributes="member: 6801228">How do you square that thought with Elves getting skills and humans getting a skill with the recommendation of the Skilled feat? Yeah, okay, Goliath's lost athleticism as part of their Powerful Build to instead be better at breaking out of grapples.... which used to be a function of the athletic skill. So, did they lose it because "no skills allowed" or did they lose it because the intent was it is hard to grapple a goliath and when grappling changed the ability needed to change? And if we look at the 10 races in the list: Aasimar, Gnomes, Tieflings, Dragonborn, Halflings have never had skills as part of their species/race design. Orcs lost theirs in MotM, and seem to have lost powerful build so that Adrenaline rush could be on a short restLeaving only dwarves, with their tools and weapons, and elves with their weapons.... and those weapon profs were terrible mechanically. And instead of tools and some bonuses to specific history, Dwarves are getting tremorsense which is AWESOME. I think you are reading a few losses as much bigger, and as being motivated by things that aren't the real motivations.</blockquote>