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<blockquote data-quote="Veltharis ap Rylix" data-source="post: 9421740" data-attributes="member: 66357"><p>Mechanics are one thing - a presence in books going forward is another.</p><p></p><p>Saying "just use the 2014 half-elf/orc stats" only goes so far. They could have chosen to remove the warlock class from the '24 PHB and say "just use the 2014 warlock" too, and the argument that we haven't <em>technically</em> lost anything would be just as valid, yet I don't think people who want to play warlocks would necessarily see it that way.</p><p></p><p>Particularly if WotC then proceeded to never again acknowledge that warlocks exist within D&D at all, which given the fact that both Phandelver and Planescape each turned an existing half-elf and half-orc NPC into, respectively, a drow and a full orc, isn't necessarily an unfair comparison.</p><p></p><p>I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that their claim of wanting to do more with mixed ancestry characters in future books is genuine, but the actions they've taken of over the past couple of years feel, however unintentionally, like they instead would prefer to sweep mixed ancestry characters under the proverbial rug and never talk about them again.</p><p></p><p>Unless and until I see them talking about publishing something new that touches on the topic of mixed ancestry characters properly, I'm not going to be satisfied with "just use the old stats".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Veltharis ap Rylix, post: 9421740, member: 66357"] Mechanics are one thing - a presence in books going forward is another. Saying "just use the 2014 half-elf/orc stats" only goes so far. They could have chosen to remove the warlock class from the '24 PHB and say "just use the 2014 warlock" too, and the argument that we haven't [I]technically[/I] lost anything would be just as valid, yet I don't think people who want to play warlocks would necessarily see it that way. Particularly if WotC then proceeded to never again acknowledge that warlocks exist within D&D at all, which given the fact that both Phandelver and Planescape each turned an existing half-elf and half-orc NPC into, respectively, a drow and a full orc, isn't necessarily an unfair comparison. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that their claim of wanting to do more with mixed ancestry characters in future books is genuine, but the actions they've taken of over the past couple of years feel, however unintentionally, like they instead would prefer to sweep mixed ancestry characters under the proverbial rug and never talk about them again. Unless and until I see them talking about publishing something new that touches on the topic of mixed ancestry characters properly, I'm not going to be satisfied with "just use the old stats". [/QUOTE]
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