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<blockquote data-quote="rogueattorney" data-source="post: 5277999" data-attributes="member: 17551"><p>"Challenger Series" correction:</p><p></p><p>It's a common misconception and indicative of how confusing TSR's marketing of D&D was in the early '90s, but the "Challenger Series" was NOT the Black Box Basic set, the various other boxed sets, and the Thunder Rift series of adventures. Rather that was the "Beginner Series." Many of the "Beginner" series of resources had a shield on the lower right with a symbol on it that designated whether it was an adventure, resource, or whatever.</p><p></p><p>The "Challenger Series" was the continuation of the RC supported D&D Known World products, such as the Poor Wizard's Almanacs, the Hollow World Products, the PC series, and various boxed sets like Wrath of the Immortals and Champions of Mystara. You can tell the "Challenger" products by the blue flag behind the D&D ampersand with the world "Challenger" on it.</p><p></p><p>There was a Dungeon Master Screen put out in 1993 which had an adventure "Escape from Thunder Rift," which transitioned players from Beginner/Thunder Rift products to Challenger/Known World products. </p><p></p><p>The Beginner/Challenger convention was only used in 1992 and 1993, after which the Known Word line was folded (poorly) into 2e as Mystara and all support for D&D (beyond the 1994 and 1996 reprints of the 1991 Black Box Basic) set were discontinued.</p><p></p><p>As a side note, I've never seen the contents of the 1999 Dungeons & Dragons Adventure Game set with the black box and red dragon (not to be confused with the 1991 Black Box Basic set) and don't know exactly what the rules in that game are. I don't know if it's another reprint of the 1991 set or if it's an intro to 2e.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rogueattorney, post: 5277999, member: 17551"] "Challenger Series" correction: It's a common misconception and indicative of how confusing TSR's marketing of D&D was in the early '90s, but the "Challenger Series" was NOT the Black Box Basic set, the various other boxed sets, and the Thunder Rift series of adventures. Rather that was the "Beginner Series." Many of the "Beginner" series of resources had a shield on the lower right with a symbol on it that designated whether it was an adventure, resource, or whatever. The "Challenger Series" was the continuation of the RC supported D&D Known World products, such as the Poor Wizard's Almanacs, the Hollow World Products, the PC series, and various boxed sets like Wrath of the Immortals and Champions of Mystara. You can tell the "Challenger" products by the blue flag behind the D&D ampersand with the world "Challenger" on it. There was a Dungeon Master Screen put out in 1993 which had an adventure "Escape from Thunder Rift," which transitioned players from Beginner/Thunder Rift products to Challenger/Known World products. The Beginner/Challenger convention was only used in 1992 and 1993, after which the Known Word line was folded (poorly) into 2e as Mystara and all support for D&D (beyond the 1994 and 1996 reprints of the 1991 Black Box Basic) set were discontinued. As a side note, I've never seen the contents of the 1999 Dungeons & Dragons Adventure Game set with the black box and red dragon (not to be confused with the 1991 Black Box Basic set) and don't know exactly what the rules in that game are. I don't know if it's another reprint of the 1991 set or if it's an intro to 2e. [/QUOTE]
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